Text 6981, 83 rader
Skriven 2005-01-05 17:18:03 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 6959 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Proud Democrat
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH> Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB>> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>>> Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB>>>> John Hull -> LEE LOFASO wrote:

 JH>>>>> Kiss my ass, Lee.

 GB>>>> Enough of this John.

 JH>>> OK, fine.  When are you going to do something about the vicious
 GB>> lies and
 JH>>> anti-American crap that Lee posts in here?  Putting up with such
 GB>> garbage
 JH>>> from foreigners is one thing, but Lee knows better, and he's only
 GB>> doing
 JH>>> it because he knows you won't do anything about it.

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 GB>> What viscous lies are you talking about? About people here or
 JH> politicians?

 JH> He has made statements about politicians, and then implied that anyone
 JH> who was of the same party or persuasion was no better.  Its one thing to
 JH> call somebody a liberal or conservative, but when you refer to someone
 JH> in a derogatory fashion, making it personal, BECAUSE they are a liberal
 JH> or conservative, that crosses the line as far as I'm concerned.  You
 JH> know what I'm referring to, because you've commented on it in the past.

Now that I know what you are talking about, I very much agree. Personal is
against the rules. When I see it from here on out or if anyone wants to point
it out, please do.

 GB>> And as far as anti-american, when has that been against the rules? I
 GB>> think there enough pro-americans here to rebut anything that
 JH> someone so
 GB>> misguided might say.

 JH> And, as I said, a foreigner can be forgiven for making false statements
 JH> based on an imcomplete picture - most of them don't have the resources
 JH> that we do.  But when an American does it, with full knowledge that the
 JH> things they are saying are lies, it has crossed the line between
 JH> commentary or political rhetoric and libel.  I daresay a case could be

Then show them for what they are and pound them.

 JH> made that such actions could even be called treasonous in a time when we
 JH> have terrorists running around looking for things to attack.

Treasonous? I hope not. Not until the constitution is suspended my friend. Now
of course if they threaten people's lives or the security of the nation, that
is something else.

 JH> I've heard stories from some of the older folks about what happened to
 JH> people during WWII who were German or Japanese sympathizers.  Maybe Lee
 JH> and others like him should be a bit more careful about things they say
 JH> that are so anti-American.

It does happen in these times. Heck, in these times you can get killed for
getting someone mad on the road.

There is a responsibility for what one says. I don't know if you remember him,
but I had a poster on my BBS who made a brief appearance here named Bob Stump.
Probably the most outrageous person I have ever met. He intentionally went
around trying to insult and stir things up. He went onto Paul Gallante's
website a few years ago and accused him and other Vietnam vets of being
murderers. I severed all ties with him at that point.

He learned the hard way. He started to get death threats against him and his
family. He then learned to shut up and only post under handles. He was at one
time convinced my friend, Daniel Metcalfe, who is in SF was stalking him. Bob
told me you know those special forces types can kill you without you even
knowing it. When I told Daniel he laughed for a good while.

But Bob learned a harsh lesson.

Others making such outrageous claims should take heed as well.

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