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Skriven 2005-01-17 11:39:00 av VERN HUMPHREY (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av TIM RICHARDSON
Ärende: SOCIAL SECURITY
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TR>VH>That's not the problem -- the problem is, where will the cash come from
TR>VH>to keep paying those drawing Social Security when we cut off the FICA
TR>VH>tax?

TR>From the same place its coming from right now. Out of the pockets of We The
TR>People. Where else?

And that brings us full circle -- to pay the current retirees, we take
money from current workers.  Every dime we take is one less dime they
have to save for THEIR future retirement.

TR>VH>Not a patch on the problem.  While you COULD save a billion here and a
TR>VH>billion there, it would be only a drop in the Social Security bucket.

TR>I'm not talking about saving "a billion here and a billion there", I'm talki
TR>about cutting off the whole thing, period. No more foreign aid money goes ou
TR>of this country until everyone in America who is homeless has a permanent
TR>place to live, and food to eat. Not one dime to a foreign country until
TR>everyone in America who is willing and able to work has a job and an income.

The "whole thing" isn't nearly enough to solve the Social Security
problem.

TR>We start by not sending our money and jobs out of the country.

How do we do that?

If we stop exporting jobs, we also stop IMporting jobs.  That would be a
major disaster.

TR>We start by developing our oil resources wherever they are, land or sea.
TR>Foreign nations have us by the balls over oil because some stupid-assed bunc
TR>of do-gooders are afraid of scaring off some obscure creature that lives on
TR>the spot where there are huge oil resources, so they bind it all up with
TR>Congress Members who get campaign funds from special interest groups that pu
TR>that nonsense.

I agree we can do much to make ourselves more energy self-sufficient.
Personally, I would initiate a program to convert our over-the-road
truck fleet to 100% bio-diesel, and grow our own fuel right here.

TR>VH>A good example is the woman who froze to death sitting on the bench
TR>VH>at bus stop in front of Housing and Urban Development.  Henry Cisneros
TR>VH>(Secretary of HUD) was pouring ashes over his head -- until the whole
TR>VH>story came out.


TR>Thats one example.

The evidence is that most homeless people fall into the same category --
alcoholism, drugs and mental illness are almost universal among the
homeless.


TR>For everyone of cases like that there are a hundred of mothers or fathers
TR>living in their vehicles with their children, sending their children to scho
TR>from their vehicle while they work in day labor jobs out of places like
TR>Manpower Inc (minimum wage) just to feeed them.

No, there are not.  The vast majority of homeless are mental or
substance abuse cases.


TR>A lot more than you seem to realize. And yes, many are druggies, and
TR>alcoholics. And p[eople with serious mental problems cannot help the way the
TR>are. I'm sure if they were handed a choice they'd choose to be normal and ab
TR>to care for themselves in a productive way, just like you and I.

That's a nice platitude, but it doesn't solve the problem.  How do you
provide homes for people who will leave those homes and wander the
streets from choice?


TR>VH>To those who say we should put troops on the border, I say, "Which
TR>VH>units?"


TR>There are military bases in California, Arizona, Texas. There are many
TR>military bases in surrounding states. Part of the basic training could (and
TR>should) involve patrolling America's borders. They are *our* borders. We are
TR>talking about *our* country. We have a right to control our borders, and
TR>enforce our immigration laws.

All of our military units are committed -- most of them are either
carrying out security missions, recovering from missions overseas, or
preparing to go overseas.  We don't have the troops.

TR>We also have an obligation to secure our economy for our own citizens first.
TR>Let Mexico create jobs and social programs for their own people. I'm tired o
TR>America doing it `for' them.

If you want to solve the problem you have to start with the social
workers, teachers, and police who aren't allowed to tell the INS when
they find an illegal.  Then you have to get the INS to do something
about it.

All the troops in the world can't "seal" the border as long as illegals
can find sanctuary and protection once they are across.
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