Text 7659, 123 rader
Skriven 2005-01-19 01:25:56 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 7593 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Ww 2
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John Hull -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 JH> Ed Hulett -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 EH>> Gary Braswell -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 EH>>>>>> They were more brutal and murderous in some cases. Re: The rape of
 EH>>>>>> Nanking. How Bjorn could be so blind to how truely evil the
 EH>>>> Germans and
 EH>>>>>> Japanese were only shows how the Europeans have been lied to
 JH> for 60
 EH>>>>>> years by their leaders.

 GB>>>>> The atrocities of the Japanese boggle the mind. In retribution
 EH>> for the
 GB>>>>> Chinese helping Dolittle's men out of Japanese-held territory,
 EH>> they went
 GB>>>>> on an orgy of murder and killed over 100,000 Chinese.

 EH>>>> The ironic thing about it all is that the Japanese and Chinese have
 EH>>>> common ancesters. It wasn't a racist thing, it was just wanton
 EH>> brutality.

 GB>>> The Japanese Imperial Army were trained with blows. Low ranking men
 EH>> were
 GB>>> slapped repeatedly or savagely beaten by their superiors for not
 GB>>> measuring up to expectation. Whereas the US military would demand
 GB>>> pushups, miles run or some other repetitive and uncomfortable task,
 GB>>> Japanese would beat their men often into unconsciousness and broken
 EH>> bones.

 EH>> They also lied to them about what the enemy would do to them if they
 EH>> surrendered. They were told that the enemy was a lower form of life
 JH> than
 EH>> they were, too.

 GB>>> When you are beaten all the time, its easy to transfer that hate and
 GB>>> pain to those of less power than you.

 EH>> Exactly.

 GB>>>>> During and after the Bataan Death March, the Japanese went on a
 EH>> rampage
 GB>>>>> killing over 200,000 innocent people because some people tried to
 EH>> throw
 GB>>>>> food and water to the allied troops being marched to death.

 EH>>>> The allied troops, after seeing this happen over and over, tried
 EH>> to tell
 EH>>>> the Philipeanos along the way not to risk their own lives yet they
 EH>> just
 EH>>>> kept trying to get food and water to the troops.

 GB>>> Brings a tear to the eye.

 EH>> I watched a show on the History Channel about the Bataan Death
 JH> March and
 EH>> listening to what the survivers had to say about it was depressing.
 EH>> Seeing them tell their stories was heart wrenching.

 EH>> Right now on The Military Channel is a program on Bataan.

 GB>>>>> I highly recommend Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking. It came a
 EH>> out a few
 GB>>>>> years ago with new information that the deaths went to far larger
 EH>> levels
 GB>>>>> than first thought.

 EH>>>> I have read exerpts from it.

 GB>>>>> There is a picture there that haunts me and I cannot get out of
 EH>> my mind.
 GB>>>>> A beautiful Chinese woman, naked and tied to a chair out in the
 JH> open
 GB>>>>> with he legs tied wide open so she could be casually raped by any
 GB>>>>> Japanese so inclined. I was eating at the time I first saw the
 EH>> pic and
 GB>>>>> became ill.

 EH>>>> The Japanese were animals. They did things no human should do to
 JH> even
 EH>>>> animals let alone doing it to other humans.

 GB>>> I agree. Its astounding to me that a culture so ingrained with
 GB>>> appreciation for beauty, gentle and quietly philosophical could be so
 GB>>> callously brutal.

 EH>> It was their idea that they were a superior people that allowed
 JH> them to
 EH>> treat the Chinese and allied POWs with such distain.

 GB>>>>> At least the German people came to grips with their past. The
 EH>> Japanese
 GB>>>>> are still in denial. They do not burden their history books with
 EH>> such
 GB>>>>> things.

 EH>>>> They dwell on the nuclear bombs the US dropped on them and
 EH>> conveniently
 EH>>>> ignore the atrocities they perpetrated on others.

 GB>>> You are exactly right.

 GB>>> Many Japanese soldiers who were guards on the various allied POW
 JH> camps
 GB>>> still see nothing wrong with what was done to the allied POWs.

 EH>> Some have come forward and admitted they were wrong, but not enough of
 EH>> them. Their generation is slowly fading away.

 GB>>> My father told me he held no hatred towards the Japanese of today,
 JH> but
 GB>>> he wished he had killed more of the bastards back then.

 EH>> I have heard the same from other vets from the Pacific theater.

 JH> There was a show on yesterday on Cabanatuan and the covert mission to
 JH> rescue our POWs.  Is that the one you are referring to?  Grim stuff.

Yes, that's the one. Yes, very grim.

Ed

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