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Text 10723, 74 rader
Skriven 2009-03-27 07:06:00 av Dave Drum (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av John Fitzgerald
Ärende: ACORN EXPOSED AGAIN + AGA
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-=> JOHN FITZGERALD wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

 JF>   Excuse me, but just where have I ever said anything about what the
 JF>  law requires about turning in forms, either way?  I have only made

 DD>   You haven't, and that's the point.

 JF>   No one has made issue with that except you in your attempt to divert
 JF> attention away from the fact that ACORN has submitted, uh, by law,
 JF> bogus reg'forms, over and over, for many years...which is against the
 JF> law.

You seem to have this problem distinguishing between ACORN and its employees.

 DD>  You conveniently ignore that ACORN is
 DD>  required by law to turn in ALL completed forms.

 JF>     I am sure they had every intention of turning in all the forms they
 JF> have forged.  That is the only thing being ignored here.

You seem to have this problem distinguishing between ACORN and its employees.

 JF> issue with rejected reg'forms, forged signatures, over and over,
 JF> embezzling, etc. And yes, I say "caught" because the on going pattern
 JF> of falsifying reg'forms -by- ACORN workers is now too great to ignore.

 DD>   And just who are those workers defrauding or hurting?

 JF>    We should allow this to happen because you feel they are not
 JF> "hurting" anyone?   Do you feel that fixing elections isn't "hurting"
 JF> anyone?  Ha! You're washed out here.

Show where the results of ACORN's registration efforts ever "fixed" an
election. Show also the effects of Katherine Harris' voter registration editing
in Palm Beach County, FL affected the election of 2000 while you're at it.

You seem to have this problem distinguishing between ACORN and its employees.

 DD>   Why, ACORN, of course. ACORN is the victim here.

 JF>     Well, they certainly have ravaged their reputation, but I'm sure
 JF> that's not what you meant.  50,000+ rejected reg'forms, forgery,
 JF> embezzling, etc, etc...and all you can say is they're the 'victims'.
 JF> You're washed out on this issue Drum.  You just talk.

You seem to have this problem distinguishing between ACORN and its employees.

 JF> If they took the time to check reliable identification instead of just
 JF> going out and signing up anyone on their word alone there would not be
 JF> a problem. They know if they check ID's they are going to have to turn
 JF> away lots of people. They know what they're doing...and they're getting
 JF> caught, over and over. Esp the ones who forge signatures and falsify
 JF> other info.

 DD>  In your mind that is what happens.

 JF>    You mean when they turn in a form with a bogus name and address
 JF> they took the time to check ID?  Again, you just talk.

Didn't say they checked ID - it's not required in order to fill out a form. It
may be required at the polls in order to prove that you are the person who is
registered to vote, though. But, NOT to fill out the form to register to vote.

 JF>   When they turn in a form with a forged signature, they checked for
 JF> ID?? Again, you just talk.  More of your mindless charging at red.

See above. If I am "charging at red" and Bob Klahn - who is making the nearly
the same points is "charging at red" then you might want to stand by to be
trampled by the truth.  BTW - you seem obsessed by the colour red. Are you a
RED? Or maybe a parlour pink?   Bv)=

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