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Skriven 2009-06-03 01:52:17 av Dan Ceppa (1:138/666.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Ross Cassell
Ärende: Unfathomable
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-> On 02 Jun 09  15:25:12, Ross Cassell got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: Unfathomable

 DC> Ross, get real.  I'm talkimg about excess truck deliveries, noise,
 DC> visits and the like.

 RC> I was *not* talking about that, I was talking about those whom work
 RC> from home for someone else, using such things as a computer and
 RC> telephone. You are the one whom ignored this and took it to an
 RC> extreme. 

It's not the extreme.  It's an example of a home business that would 
be disruptive to a neighborhood.  

 RC>> Painting a car is not the only aspect of fixing ones car or
 RC>> restoring one.
 
 DC> And, having your car torn apart is one of those things.  That is
 DC> illegal ' in most residential areas.  It can be so even in the
 DC> driveway.

 RC> Which is why many do so in the backyard, maybe behind a fenced
 RC> backyard or in a garage. I cannot believe you ever worked in the DIY
 RC> auto parts business. 

Give it rest, Ross.  I'm giving you facts based on direct knowledge 
of events that have occurred to some of my customers.  Yes, the situations 
are different in different states.  In fact, the circumstances can vary 
in the same community due to zoning laws.  Simply having your car up 
on blocks in your own driveway can lead to a citation.  

 RC>> I am not the one running out in left field with this extreme, you
 RC>> are and with a radical example. I presented a simple example and
 RC>> I did not include the word urethane, you introduced that.
 
 DC> It's called "an example", Ross.  Even the more standard acrylic paints
 DC>  carry high levels of VOCs which are illegal to emit into the
 DC> atmosphere.  And, try and find an enamel car paint.  That has been off
 DC> the market \for probably 20 yrs now.

 RC> What I presented was examples, you ran them up to extremes.

No, Ross.  Those are the facts.  Try buying car paint in California.  You 
need to be a registered paint shop.  

 RC> Someone restoring a 57 Chevy, you turned into spraying urethane.

The same holds true for acrylic, at least in California.  It's not 
an extreme.  Have antifreeze runing down your driveway.  It'll get 
you fined most everywhere.  

 RC> Someone telecommuting, you turned them into a receiving dock.

It's called "a counter example".  People have tried that and found out 
that there zoning laws don't allow it.  
 
 DC> So what?  I gave you examples as to why certain business operations
 DC> would be illegal to run out of home. It's as simple.  The fact is
 DC> that not all home business are legal.

 RC> I am not interested in your examples, I presented benign examples and

Of course you aren't, because those examples demonstrate that not all home 
business are legal in the location that they are.  You are under the very 
mistaken premise that I am stating that all home business are illegal.  
I never stated.  I only stated that not evey home business is allowable 
due to zoning restrictions.  

 DC> Wrong again. Ross.  I gave you plenty of examples to demonstrate that
 DC> not all all home business are legal, which is the point.

 RC> Businesses that somehow meet your litmus test might be, I wasnt
 RC> talking about those. I never remotely mentioned those that met your so
 RC> called examples. 

That is not the point.  You simply refuse to accept the fact that not every 
home business is legal.  

 DC> Now, I suggest we both stop thes asides that you like ti throw out.  I
 DC>  have no problems with retorting them.  But, they clog the Echo with
 DC>  unnecessary chaff.

 RC> Maybe because of your dishonest debating tactics?

Bringing facts that demonstrate that various home businesses are illegal 
is dishonest?  LOL!  


 RC> To have you describe it, people would no longer be able to do Avon,
 RC> Tupperware, Amway much less telecommute. 

Once again, facts not in evidence.  I know of few people that host 
Tupperware parties in the same neighborhood, let alone house, more 
than a couple of times a year.  Avon is usually one on one.  [S]Amway, 
unless it's changed, os the same.  

 DC> You want another one?  Prostitution is not legal.

 RC> and was I talking about that??
 
It's a home business.  So is growing pot in your basement.  

 RC>> If we could get the liberal whiny ass tree huggers to pipe down,
 RC>> maybe we could build more nuke plants and windmill farms.
 
 DC> That will still not solve the problem of "cheap coal" among other
 DC> toxic wastes from other industries that are dumped into the air
 DC> and streams.

 RC> and what do you suggest replace coal, I tossed out my suggestion, now
 RC> it is your turn? 

For one, thing, a lower population would be a start.  

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