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Skriven 2006-04-23 18:31:56 av John Massey (1:123/789.0)
    Kommentar till text 146 av BOB KLAHN (1:123/140)
Ärende: Civil Rights.
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 JM>>>> You can be as indignant as you like, that doesn't change
 JM>>>> the fact that you did not pay 5/6ths more than in the past.
 JM>>>> You did not scrape the dregs to try to get 500US
 JM>>>> back.

 BK>>>   How do you know?

 JM>> I know you don't have to scrape anything to get a refund.

 BK>   Dig deep to scrape up every deduction.

That makes no sense. You either have a deduction or you don't. No scraping
involved.


 BK>>> If he is in a low income bracket, then he may
 BK>>>   well be paying a lot more as state taxes go up to cover expenses
 BK>>>   the feds push off onto the states. State taxes tend to hit lower
 BK>>>   income people harder.

 JM>> This is nothing more than Democratic boilerplate that
 JM>> simple-minded democratic minions have been spouting off for
 JM>> years. I don't believe it.

 BK>   You don't believe it does not constitute actual refutation.

Using double negatives Bob? "Don't beleive it does not."  When you make your
thoughts clear it is easier to answer.


 BK>>>   Which is why all the tax cuts Reagan and
 BK>>>   Bush II have imposed may well increase taxes for the poor.

 JM>> And it may well not.

 BK>   Since every state makes their own tax laws, it may in some
 BK>   states and not in others. Don't know how it is where he lives.

 JM>>>> It is not your company's job you take care of you.  Judging

 BK>>>   Depends on what you mean by that.

 JM>> It's simple clear english Bob. What part do you not
 JM>> understand?

 BK>   The part where you ignore the real world.

In the real world there are thousands that depended on companies to care for
then and the companies are now failing to do so. In the REAL world it is
better to depend on yourself.

 JM>> A person should be responcible for themself.
 JM>> I suspect that concept is outlandish to you.

 BK>   Everyone is responsible for everyone else. I suspect that
 BK>   concept is outlandish to you.

Not only is it outlandish it is stupid.


 BK>>>    Most people with insurance get  it through their employer.

 JM>> So what your point? No one said couldn't do nice things for
 JM>> their employees but it's not the compinies job.

 BK>   It is if it's negotiated. It is unless there is some other
 BK>   practical way to do it.

 BK>   Personally I would like to see all employer provided insurance
 BK>   outlawed. Watch the US medical care system collapse. You can
 BK>   forget any new treatments, no one is going to develop them if
 BK>   they aren't going to be paid for.

 BK>    Of course, the govt would finally step in and take over. That's
 BK>    the only way it can work.

On man, the government can't manage to do anything effecently and you want
to turn over your health care to it.
What a stupid idea.

 BK>>> Most older people with pensions got  it through their employer.

 JM>> Again what's your point?

 BK>   Yeah, watch all them working people suddenly discover social
 BK>   security is all they have.


 JM>>>> from your writing
 JM>>>> I can under stand why it is all you can do to make poverty
 JM>>>> wages. If you detest having to work 60 hours weeks start
 JM>>>> your own business and work 80-100 hours a week and  have
 JM>>>> the added headache of  dealing with illiterate, ungrateful
 JM>>>> employees with a chip on their shoulder much like you.

 BK>>>   IOW, , in spite of what the
 BK>>>   right wants us to believe. Thanks for admitting it.

 BK>   Restoring the part you cut out.

 BK>   IOW, entrepreneurship is not a good road, in spite of what the
 BK>   right wants us to believe. Thanks for admitting it.

 JM>> No Bob I will not allow you to put words in my mouth.

 BK>   Just interpreted, correctly, what you said above.

If I tell you you interpeted what I said wrong, then it is wrong, after all
it is MY OPINION not open to you changing it to fit your needs.

 JM>> Entrepreneurship is a good road but only fro those willing
 JM>> to work hard. This leaves out those with a union mentality
 JM>> and those who think the world "owes" them a living.
 JM>> (actually those could be the same group)

 BK>   IOW, people who work at jobs are worthless in your view.

No Bob I never said they were worthless. You seen to want to change what I
say.

 JM>>>> You made the life decisions that put you where you are
 JM>>>> today, no one else, so quit bitching about it is every one
 JM>>>> else's fault.   I under stand why you do it though;  It's
 JM>>>> easier  to fault every one else than to admit you are a
 JM>>>> failure.

 BK>>>   How do you know he is a failure?

 JM>> That's my opinion bassed on his writing.

 BK>   Damn poor basis for that opinion.

Not to me.


 BK>>>    The reality is, once it was considered honorable to work for a
 BK>>>    living,

 JM>> It still is.

 BK>   Nope. As you said above.

Yes Bob it is still honorable to work for a living.
What is not honorable is those with a union mentality  and those who think
the world "owes" them a living.


 BK>>>     and deserving of a living wage. No longer. Today
 BK>>>    working is considered inferior and lower class.

 JM>> Not among my friends and business contacts.

 BK>   Your friends and business contacts must be liberals.

HA AHhhahAHAHhahAHHAHHAHAHAHh
You are one funny boy Bob.

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