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Skriven 2008-04-28 20:32:59 av John Massey (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 6562 av Bob Klahn (1:124/311)
Ärende: MORE TERRORISTS FOR OBAMA
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Bob Klahn -> John Massey wrote:

 JM>> MORE TERRORISTS FOR OBAMA

 JM>> The name Bill Ayers has become tied to the Barack Obama
 JM>> campaign.

 BK>  Funny that. Bin Laden's family is tied to the Bush family. Yet
 BK>  no one wants to remember that.

 JM>> But now it seems that Obama has yet another
 JM>> terrorist buddy .. that would be Obama fundraiser Hatem
 JM>> El-Hady.  This man was the chairman of an Ohio-based
 JM>> Islamic "charity" called Kindhearts.This "charity" was
 JM>> closed by the US government in 2006 for terrorist
 JM>> fundraising.

 BK>  Yet, he has not been indicted, not been charged, not sent off to
 BK>  Gitmo, and is walking around a free man.

 BK>  IOW, you just might find yourself being sued for libeling him.

 BK>  Well, if you were important enough to be sued.

 BK>  ...

 JM>> For those of you who may not be familiar with Kindhearts,
 JM>> it is an off-shoot of the Holy Land Foundation, which has
 JM>> been on trial for attempting to mask support of terrorism
 JM>> as "charitable giving." Kindhearts not only provided funds
 JM>> for Hamas, but its fundraising specialist - a man by the
 JM>> name of Muhammad El-Mezain - was the designated Hamas bag
 JM>> man in the US.

 BK>  From the Toledo Blade.
 BK> 
**************************************************************************

 BK>  Article published March 6, 2006

 BK>         By CHRISTOPHER D. KIRKPATRICK
 BK>         and DAVID YONKE <mailto:dyonke@theblade.com>
 BK>         BLADE STAFF WRITERS



 BK>  Abdul Hammuda nods to his customers - a steady stream there for
 BK>  takeout and the mix of Libyan, Moroccan, and Lebanese cultures.

 BK>  He's a success story, an engineer who started several bakeries
 BK>  in the Arab-rich Toledo and Detroit metropolitan areas and
 BK>  chased down the American Dream. But there's a darker side to
 BK>  being Muslim in America these days: He asks a reporter not to
 BK>  name his business - bowing to the inevitable brick that would
 BK>  come crashing through his window, he says off to the side.

 BK>  The Libyan, who has lived in the United States for decades,
 BK>  said it's increasingly difficult for Middle Easterners here to
 BK>  celebrate their culture and religion without being scrutinized
 BK>  as supporting terrorists.

 BK>  Islam, like other religions, requires giving to the poor. For
 BK>  Christians, it's called tithing. For Muslims, the practice is
 BK>  zakat, and there are rules for how the money is distributed.

 BK>  But the Muslim community is finding it difficult to run
 BK>  charities without suspicion of funding terrorist organizations,
 BK>  they say. Toledo-based KindHearts - started after several major
 BK>  Arab charities were closed in 2002 - was shuttered by the
 BK>  Treasury Department last month for suspected ties to Hamas,
 BK>  considered a Palestinian terrorist group.

 BK>  Mr. Hammuda, who knows one of the indicted men, Marwan Othman
 BK>  El-Hindi, 42, planned to start a local charity with him. But the
 BK>  plans have fizzled since the arrest, he said.

 BK>  "I knew him; we were not friends. ... He portrayed himself as
 BK>  someone who had experience with grants. I put him on the
 BK>  board," he said of Mr. El-Hindi. "I was just as shocked as
 BK>  everyone else [by the arrest]."

 BK>  Along with Mr. El-Hindi, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, 26, and Wassim I.
 BK>  Mazloum, 24, were charged with conspiring to kill or injure
 BK>  people in the Middle East and with providing the "support and
 BK>  resources."

 BK> ..

 BK>  Last week, the American Muslim Task Force on Civil Rights and
 BK>  Elections, a Washington-based coalition of U.S. Muslim groups,
 BK>  requested a meeting with Treasury Secretary John Snow to discuss
 BK>  KindHearts and "the continued targeting of Muslim charities
 BK>  without due process of law."

 BK> ..

 BK>  "In that sense, of course, there is a fear and a danger of
 BK>  anything that is Arab and Muslim-related."

 BK>  For its part, KindHearts says it tracked donations and is
 BK>  innocent. The group was founded in 2002 after the government
 BK>  shut down the three largest U.S. Muslim charities. It raised
 BK>  $2.9 million the first year, $3.9 million in 2003, and $5.1
 BK>  million in 2004.

 BK>  The charity underwent a two-year investigation by the Senate
 BK>  Finance Committee, along with two dozen other U.S. Muslim
 BK>  charities, without charges. KindHearts officials said they knew
 BK>  the political climate after 9/11 and painstakingly followed
 BK>  federal laws and guidelines.

 BK>  The charity set up offices in Lebanon, Pakistan, and the
 BK>  Palestinian territories. By sending funds to its own offices,
 BK>  rather than to foreign nonprofit organizations, KindHearts had
 BK>  near-total control, Mr. Smaili said.

 BK>  Giving to the poor is one of the five "pillars" of Islam, and
 BK>  there are eight rules in the Qur'an for how the money can be
 BK>  used.

 BK>  Among the acceptable causes are orphans, the poor, travelers in
 BK>  need, someone with a sudden financial emergency, public
 BK>  projects such as roads, and salaries for charity workers.

 BK>  ...

 BK>  KindHearts gave to the YMCA, which is a Christian organization,
 BK>  Dr. Elhady said, and the Islamic Center of Greater Toledo has
 BK>  donated money to Christian-run soup kitchens, according to Dr.
 BK>  S. Zaheer Hasan, a spokesman for the mosque in the Perrysburg
 BK>  Township.

 BK>  ...
 BK> 
**************************************************************************

 JM>> And two months before the US government
 JM>> closed down Kindhearts, it was revealed that the South Asia
 JM>> Division Coordinator had known ties to al Qaeda, conducting
 JM>> a ten day tour of an al Qaeda recruitment center.

 BK>  Wow! Al Qaeda recruitment centers as a tour destination!

 JM>> Beyond El-Hady's leadership in Kindhearts, last summer he
 JM>> was questioned by the FBI because they believed he knew
 JM>> about possible conspirators in a UK-based terror plot.

 BK>  Questioned. Believed. Yet he has not been arrested or charged or
 BK>  indicted.

 JM>> If you know a man by the company he keeps .. then we now
 JM>> know Barack Obama a bit better.

 BK>  No, we really don't. Either the Bush administration has screwed
 BK>  up, and won't admit it, or it is too incompetent to follow
 BK>  through.

I find it interesting, you bash Bush instead of defending Obama.

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