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Skriven 2008-05-29 05:05:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Ann Coulter's Weekly Colu
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YOU CAN'T APPEASE EVERYBODY
May 28, 2008


After decades of comparing Nixon to Hitler, Reagan to Hitler and Bush to
Hitler,
liberals have finally decided it is wrong to make comparisons to Hitler. But
the
only leader to whom they have applied their newfound rule of thumb is:
Iranian
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

While Ahmadinejad has not done anything as starkly evil as cut the capital
gains
tax, he does deny the Holocaust, call for the destruction of Israel, deny the
existence of gays in Iran and refuses to abandon his nuclear program despite
protests from the United Nations. That's the only world leader we're not
allowed
to compare to Hitler.

President Bush's speech at the Knesset two weeks ago was somewhat more
nuanced
than liberals' Hitler arguments. He did not simply jump up and down chanting:
"Ahmadinejad is Hitler!" Instead, Bush condemned a policy of appeasement
toward
madmen, citing Neville Chamberlain's ill-fated talks with Adolf Hitler.

Suspiciously, Bush's speech was interpreted as a direct hit on B. Hussein
Obama's foreign policy -- and that's according to Obama's supporters.

So to defend Obama, who -- according to his supporters -- favors appeasing
madmen, liberals expanded the rule against ad Hitlerum arguments to cover any
mention of the events leading to World War II. A ban on "You're like Hitler"
arguments has become liberals' latest excuse to ignore history.

Unless, of course, it is liberals using historical examples to support
Obama's
admitted policy of appeasing dangerous lunatics. It's a strange one-sided
argument when they can cite Nixon going to China and Reagan meeting with
Gorbachev, but we can't cite Chamberlain meeting with Hitler.

There are reasons to meet with a tyrant, but none apply to Ahmadinejad. We're
not looking for an imperfect ally against some other dictatorship, as Nixon
was
with China. And we aren't in a Mexican stand-off with a nuclear power, as
Reagan
was with the USSR. At least not yet.

Mutually Assured Destruction was bad enough with the Evil Empire, but
something
you definitely want to avoid with lunatics who are willing to commit suicide
in
order to destroy the enemies of Islam. As with the H-word, our sole objective
with Ahmadinejad is to prevent him from becoming a military power.

What possible reason is there to meet with Ahmadinejad? To win a $20 bar bet
as
to whether or not the man actually owns a necktie?

We know his position and he knows ours. He wants nuclear arms, American
troops
out of the Middle East and the destruction of Israel. We don't want that.
(This
is assuming Mike Gravel doesn't pull off a major upset this November.) We
don't
need him as an ally against some other more dangerous dictator because ...
well,
there aren't any.

Does Obama imagine he will make demands of Ahmadinejad? Using what stick as
leverage, pray tell? A U.S. boycott of the next Holocaust-denial conference
in
Tehran? The U.N. has already demanded that Iran give up its nuclear program.
Ahmadinejad has ignored the U.N. and that's the end of it.

We always have the ability to "talk" to Ahmadinejad if we have something to
say.
Bush has a telephone. If Iranian crop dusters were headed toward one of our
nuclear power plants, I am quite certain that Bush would be able to reach
Ahmadinejad to tell him that Iran will be flattened unless the planes
retreat.
If his cell phone died, Bush could just post a quick warning on the
Huffington
Post.

Liberals view talk as an end in itself. They never think through how these
talks
will proceed, which is why Chamberlain ended up giving away Czechoslovakia.
He
didn't leave for Munich planning to do that. It is simply the inevitable
result
of talking with madmen without a clear and obtainable goal. Without a stick,
there's only a carrot.

The only explanation for liberals' hysterical zealotry in favor of Obama's
proposed open-ended talks with Ahmadinejad is that they seriously imagine
crazy
foreign dictators will be as charmed by Obama as cable TV hosts whose legs
tingle when they listen to Obama (a condition that used to be known as
"sciatica").

Because, really, who better to face down a Holocaust denier with a messianic
complex than the guy who is afraid of a debate moderated by Brit Hume?

There is no possible result of such a meeting apart from appeasement and
humiliation of the U.S. If we are prepared to talk, then we're looking for a
deal. What kind of deal do you make with a madman until he is ready to
surrender?

Will President Obama listen respectfully as Ahmadinejad says he plans to
build
nuclear weapons? Will he say he'll get back to Ahmadinejad on removing all
U.S.
troops from the region? Will he nod his head as Ahmadinejad demands the
removal
of the Jewish population from the Middle East? Obama says he's prepared to
have
an open-ended chat with Ahmadinejad, so I guess everything is on the table.

Perhaps in the spirit of compromise, Obama could agree to let Iran push only
half of Israel into the sea. That would certainly constitute "change"! Obama
could give one of those upbeat speeches of his, saying: As a result of my
recent
talks with President Ahmadinejad, some see the state of Israel as being half
empty. I prefer to see it as half full. And then Obama can return and tell
Americans he could no more repudiate Ahmadinejad than he could repudiate his
own
white grandmother. It will make Chris Matthews' leg tingle.

There is a third reason to talk to dictators, in addition to seeking an ally
or
as part of a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Gen. Douglas C. MacArthur talked with Japanese imperial forces on Sept. 2,
1945.
There was a long ceremony aboard the USS Missouri with full press coverage
and a
lot of talk. It was a regular international confab!

It also took place after we had dropped two nukes on Japan and MacArthur was
officially accepting Japan's surrender. If Obama plans to drop nukes on
Ahmadinejad prior to their little chat-fest, I'm all for it. But I don't
think
that's what liberals have in mind.

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