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Skriven 2008-10-27 17:19:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: The `Gay' Agenda
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Several years back, there was quite a running argument carried on in various
echoes between myself and several of those of you who are still out here in
Fido, and many who are no longer here for one reason or another.


I kept telling my opponents here in Fido that homosexual activity and life
styles would one day be literally `forced' upon us.


You denounced me as a `gay-basher'.....a `homophobic', etc etc.


I kept telling you that it would come to a point where it would be forced into
school settings, and people's children would be heavily exposed to it, with no
choices for the parents to opt out of it.


You all kept up your crecendo of hateful accusations at me for daring to
oppose the advance of the homosexual crowd's insinuation into society, their
`forcing' society to accept the un-acceptable.


How unfortunate that Sally Springett, Sue Alexander, Wayne Chirnside, the
three most vocal and hateful, who's insults and slurs I recieved, are no
longer here to eat their own words.


There are, however, a few who `are' still here. And to them, it is my hope
that the following proves a bitter pill:


How same-sex "marriage" affects Massachusetts---Had enough? Citizens,
take back your government!


What same-sex "marriage" has done to Massachusetts It's far worse than most
people realize


October 20, 2008


by Brian Camenker


Anyone who thinks that same-sex "marriage" is a benign eccentricity which
won’t affect the average person should consider what it has done in
Massachusetts. It’s become a hammer to force the acceptance and
normalization of homosexuality on everyone. And this train is moving
fast.


What has happened so far is only the beginning.


On November 18, 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court announced
its Goodridge opinion, ruling that it was unconstitutional not to allow
same-sex "marriage." Six months later, homosexual marriages began to be
performed.


The public schools


The homosexual "marriage" onslaught in public schools across the state
started soon after the November 2003, court decision.


At my own children's high school there was a school-wide assembly to
celebrate same-sex "marriage" in early December, 2003. It featured an
array of speakers, including teachers at the school who announced that
they would be "marrying" their same-sex partners and starting families
either through adoption or artificial insemination. Literature on
same-sex marriage 'how it is now a normal part of society' was
handed out to the students.


Within months it was brought into the middle schools. In September,
2004, an 8th-grade teacher in Brookline, MA, told National Public
Radio that the marriage ruling had opened up the floodgates for teaching
homosexuality. "In my mind, I know that, `OK, this is legal now.' If
somebody wants to challenge me, I'll say, `Give me a break. It's legal
now,'" she told NPR. She added that she now discusses gay sex with her
students as explicitly as she desires.  For example, she said she
tells the kids that lesbians can have vaginal intercourse using sex toys.


By the following year it was in elementary school curricula.


Kindergartners were given picture books telling them that same-sex
couples are just another kind of family, like their own parents. In
2005, when David Parker of Lexington, MA, a parent of a kindergartner,
strongly insisted on being notified when teachers were discussing
homosexuality or transgenderism with his son, the school had him
arrested and put in jail overnight.


Second graders at the same school were read a book, "King and King",
about two men who have a romance and marry each other, with a picture
of them kissing. When parents Rob and Robin Wirthlin complained, they
were told that the school had no obligation to notify them or allow them to
opt-out their child.


In 2006 the Parkers and Wirthlins filed a federal Civil Rights lawsuit
to force the schools to notify parents and allow them to opt-out their
elementary-school children when homosexual-related subjects were
taught.


The federal judges dismissed the case. The judges ruled that because
same-sex marriage is legal in Massachusetts, the school actually had a
duty to normalize homosexual relationships to children, and that
schools have no obligation to notify parents or let them opt-out their
children!


Acceptance of homosexuality had become a matter of good citizenship!


Think about that: Because same-sex marriage is "legal", a federal
judge has ruled that the schools now have a duty to portray homosexual
relationships as normal to children, despite what parents think or
believe!


In 2006, in the elementary school where my daughter went to
Kindergarten, the parents of a third-grader were forced to take their
child out of school because a man undergoing a sex-change operation
and cross-dressing was being brought into class to teach the children that
there are now "different kinds of families." School officials told
the mother that her complaints to the principal were considered
"inappropriate behavior."


Libraries have also radically changed.  School libraries across the
state, from elementary school to high school, now have shelves of
books to normalize homosexual behavior and the lifestyle in the minds of
kids, some of them quite explicit and even pornographic. Parents complaints
are ignored or met with hostility.


Over the past year, homosexual groups have been using taxpayer money
to distribute a large, slick hardcover book celebrating homosexual
marriage titled "Courting Equality" into every school library in the state.
It’s become commonplace in Massachusetts schools for teachers to
prominently display photos of their same-sex "spouses" and occasionally
bring them to school functions. Both high schools in my own town now
have principals who are "married" to their same-sex partners, whom
they bring to school and introduce to the students.


"Gay days" in schools are considered necessary to fight "intolerance"
which may exist against same-sex relationships.  Hundreds of high
schools and even middle schools across the state now hold "gay,
lesbian, bisexual, and transgender appreciation days". They "celebrate"
homosexual marriage and move forward to other behaviors such as
cross-dressing and transsexuality. In my own town, a school committee
member recently announced that combating "homophobia" is now a top
priority.


Once homosexuality has been normalized, all boundaries will come down.
The schools are already moving on to normalizing transgenderism
(including cross-dressing and sex changes). The state-funded
Commission on Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Youth includes leaders
who are transsexuals.


Public health


The Commissioner of the Massachusetts Department of Public Health is
"married" to another man. In 2007 he told a crowd of kids at a
state-sponsored youth event that it’s "wonderful being gay" and he
wants to make sure there’s enough HIV testing available for all of them.


Since homosexual marriage became "legal" the rates of HIV / AIDS have
gone up considerably in Massachusetts. This year public funding to deal
with HIV/AIDS has risen by $500,000.


Citing "the right to marry" as one of the "important challenges" in a
place where "it’s a great time to be gay", the Massachusetts Department
of Public Health helped produce The Little Black Book, Queer in the
21st Century, a hideous work of obscene pornography which was given to kids
at Brookline High School on April 30, 2005.  Among other things, it
gives "tips" to boys on how to perform oral sex on other males,
masturbate other males, and how to "safely" have someone urinate on
you for sexual pleasure. It also included a directory of bars in Boston
where young men meet for anonymous sex.


Domestic violence


Given the extreme dysfunctional nature of homosexual relationships,
the Massachusetts Legislature has felt the need to spend more money every
year to deal with skyrocketing homosexual domestic violence. This year
$350,000 was budgeted, up $100,000 from last year.


Business All insurance in Massachusetts must now recognize same-sex "married"
couples in their coverage. This includes auto insurance, health
insurance, life insurance, etc.


Businesses must recognize same-sex "married" couples in all their
benefits, activities, etc., regarding both employees and customers.


The wedding industry is required serve the homosexual community if
requested. Wedding photographers, halls, caterers, etc., must do
same-sex marriages or be arrested for discrimination.


Businesses are often "tested" for tolerance by homosexual activists.
Groups of homosexual activists often go into restaurants or bars and
publicly kiss and fondle each other to test whether the establishment
demonstrates sufficient "equality",now that homosexual marriage is
"legal".  In fact, more and more overt displays of homosexual affection
are seen in public places across the state to reinforce "marriage
equality".


Legal profession


The Massachusetts Bar Exam now tests lawyers on their knowledge of
same-sex "marriage" issues. In 2007, a Boston man, Stephen Dunne,
failed the Massachusetts bar exam because he refused to answer the questions
in it about homosexual marriage.


Issues regarding homosexual "families" are now firmly entrenched in
the Massachusetts legal system. In many firms, lawyers in Massachusetts
practicing family law must now attend seminars on homosexual
"marriage".


There are also now several homosexual judges overseeing the
Massachusetts family courts.


Adoption of children to homosexual "married" couples Homosexual "married"
couples can now demand to be able to adopt children the same as normal
couples. Catholic Charities decided to abandon handling adoptions rather
submit to regulations requiring them  to allow homosexuals to adopt the
children in their care.


In 2006 the Massachusetts Department of Social Services (DSS) honored
two men "married" to each other as their "Parents of the Year". The men
already adopted a baby through DSS (against the wishes of the baby’s
birth parents). According to news reports, the day after that adoption
was final DSS approached the men about adopting a second child.


Homosexuals now appear to be put in line for adopting children ahead
of heterosexual parents by state agencies in Massachusetts.


Government mandates


In 2004, Governor Mitt Romney ordered Justices of the Peace to perform
homosexual marriages when requested or be fired. At least one Justice
of the Peace decided to resign.


Also thanks to Gov. Romney, marriage licenses in Massachusetts now
have "Party A and Party B" instead of "husband and wife."  Romney did not
have a legal requirement to do this; he did it on his own. (See more on this
below.)


Since homosexual relationships are now officially "normal", the Legislature
now gives enormous tax money to homosexual activist groups.


In particular, the Massachusetts Commission on Gay Lesbian Bisexual and
Transgender Youth is made up of the most radical and militant homosexual
groups which target children in the schools. This year they are getting
$700,000 of taxpayer money to go into the public schools.


In 2008 Massachusetts changed the state Medicare laws to include homosexual
"married" couples in the coverage.


The public square


Since gay "marriage", annual gay pride parades have become more prominent.

There are more politicians and corporations participating,
and even police organizations take part.  And the envelope gets pushed
further and further. There is now a profane "Dyke March" through
downtown Boston, and recently a "transgender" parade in Northampton
that included bare-chested women who have had their breasts surgically
removed so they could "become" men. Governor Patrick even marched with
his "out lesbian" 17-year old daughter in the 2008 Boston Pride event,
right behind a "leather" group brandishing a black & blue flag, whips
and chains!


The media


Boston media, particularly the Boston Globe newspaper, regularly does
feature stories and news stories portraying homosexual "married" couples
where regular married couples would normally be used.  It’s "equal",
they insist, so there must be no difference in the coverage.  Also, the
newspaper advice columns now deal with homosexual "marriage" issues, and
how to properly accept it.


A growing number of news reporters and TV anchors are openly "married"
homosexuals who march in the "gay pride" parades.


Is gay marriage actually legal in Massachusetts?


Like everywhere else in America, the imposition of same-sex marriage on
the people of Massachusetts was a combination of radical, arrogant
judges and pitifully cowardly politicians.


The Goodridge ruling resulted in a complete cave-in by politicians of
both parties on this issue. Same-sex "marriage" is still illegal in
Massachusetts. On November 18, 2003 the court merely ruled that it was
unconstitutional not to allow it, and gave the Legislature six months to
"to take such action as it may deem appropriate."  Note that the
Massachusetts Constitution strongly denies courts the power to make or
change laws, or from ordering the other branches to take any action. The
constitution effectively bans "judicial review"; a court changing or
nullifying a law. Thus, the court did not order anything to happen; it
simply rendered an opinion on that specific case. And the Legislature
did nothing. The marriage statutes were never changed. However, against the
advice of many, Gov. Romney took it upon himself to alter the state's
marriage licenses to say "Party A and Party B" and order officials to
perform same-sex "weddings" if asked, though he had no legal obligation
to do so. Technically, same-sex marriages are still illegal in
Massachusetts.


Nevertheless, we are having to live with it.  And furthermore, this
abdication of their proper constitutional roles by the Legislature and
Governor has caused a domino effect as "copycat" rulings have been
issued in California and Connecticut, with other states fearful it will happen
there.


In conclusion


Homosexual "marriage" hangs over society like a hammer with the force of
law. And it’s only just begun.


It’s pretty clear that the homosexual movement’s obsession with marriage
is not because large numbers of them actually want to marry each other.
Research shows that homosexual relationships are fundamentally dysfunctional
on many levels, and "marriage" as we know it isn’t something they can achieve,
or even desire. (In fact, over the last three months, the Sunday Boston
Globe’s marriage section hasn’t had any photos of homosexual marriages. In the
beginning it was full of them.) This is about putting the legal stamp of
approval on homosexuality and imposing it with force throughout the various
social and political institutions of a society that would never accept it
otherwise. To the rest of America:


You've been forewarned.



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