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Skriven 2006-06-04 09:34:01 av madodel
Ärende: [VOICENWS] Admin: The issue of Mr. Samphere's and os2ecs.org's smear
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09:34:06 
<madodel@ptdprolog.net>, uid 50002) with qmail-scanner-1.23 
(authenticated:madodel@[24.238.92.5])
attack  on VOICE.
++ From the VOICE OS/2-eCS News Service   http://www.os2voice.org ++

From: Mark Dodel <madodelDESPAM@DESPAMptd.net>

I had really hoped it wouldn't come to this but unfortunately I can only 
take so much grief.  If this whole thing sounds convoluted and bizarre, 
trust me, it is the same for me.  I am taking this action on my own.  The 
VOICE board has yet to respond, but I am frankly unable to put up with it 
any longer.  If the VOICE board decides its more important to cater to 
someone that is obviously ill, then someone else can take over the list 
moderation as I will be unable to do so any more.

Beginning June 1st, Jeramie Samphere began a smear campaign against VOICE 
and myself.  He sent a post to the eComStation Yahoo list, 
comp.os.os2.advocacy and comp.os.os2.ecomstation and posted on his web site 
as an announcement a post that implied that the VOICE Newsletter may not 
have a July issue, he maligned the appearance of the newsletter, he accused 
VOICE of blocking his domain from submitting to and receiving posts from 
his os2ecs.org domain, and he accused VOICE of covering up a plot to do 
this.  If you were lucky enough to avoid all this nonsense, but feel the 
need to read his original diatribe you can read it at 
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.ecomstation/browse_frm/thread/af7987f3403703d2/9586122d960395ae#9586122d960395ae


Since Mr. Samphere made no attempt prior to this to contact myself or our 
web master about problems he was having, and in fact he never responded to 
an earlier post from myself about an email address he had subscribed to the 
VOICE News list which was sending me rejections for his domains DNS (and 
this was for bob@qualitycarpetcare.info which I found from a whois is a 
domain owned by Mr. Samphere).

Despite being told by myself and our server admin that we have never 
blocked has domain, he persists in accusing us of doing so and lying to 
cover it up.  The VOICE President went so far as to perform a test to show 
him his domain wasn't blocked.  After being presented with the results Mr. 
Samphere reiterated his charges, and said we had changed it.

I have tried to be patient and have offered several opportunities for him 
to correct his mistaken belief, but to no avail.  He continues to publicly 
attack myself and the VOICE organization on Usenet and on his web site. 
Maybe it gives him some sense of power, I have no idea why he is doing this 
other then that he has had a grudge against VOICE since he got himself 
banned from the IRC network that VOICE uses for meetings.  That had nothing 
to do with VOICE and the people he ticked off still refuse to let him back 
on.

I have given him fair warning.  Something he didn't attempt before he 
blindsided us with this ridiculous attack but the following post by Jeramie 
Samphere pretty much forces me to take this action.  You can view the 
original in google at 
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.ecomstation/browse_frm/thread/971183df9dc58f07/63cc9bfb841d82df?lnk=st


"The other domain we used on the same server(as os2ecs.org) was not
rejected by the  VOICE news list (MajorMajor) server. The request was
sent in the same period of a few min. This test was completed twice.
The same result. Yet both domains were configured in the same manner.

Please enlighten me on how that can be?

Better yet, don't enlighten me. VOICE can do no wrong! That is the
belief. So it must be a bizare technical issue! Perhaps Microsoft
hacked the VOICE server. Maybe the moon is made of cheese and its
affecting the way electrons travel in computer circuits! Perhaps the
chemicals used in the manufacturing of plastics is causing brain
damage. Who knows!?

Did VOICE have a motive to do what they did? I submit to you "yes"!
There has been resistance to the OS2eCS eZine and the OS2eCS
Organization from day 1!

VOICE told us we should not publish the OS2eCS eZine before the first
issue ever appeared! We don't take orders from VOICE!


"I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of
change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how
this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin."

-- OS2-eCS Underground Community"

I have been fair, and had he simply retracted his allegations after being 
told why he was probably experiencing his email problems then all this 
would be history.  But he can't let it go and his smear campaign continues. 
  There has been no plot.  No one at VOICE has anything against his 
website.  I did find it weird that he solicited money to start his "New 
hobbes" when the old one was still alive and had a lot of freely available 
mirror sites and hobbes was soliciting donations for itself.  But I let it 
go by.   It appears that Mr. Samphere simply wants to replace all the 
existing institutions left in the OS/2 community.  If people want to put 
their faith in someone that is obviously unstable then all I can do is warn 
them.

As of this point I refuse to post any announcements from Mr. Samphere and 
his web site and I will unsubscribe him from the VOICE newslist if I can 
determine how he is subscribed.  This is a lot of effort on my part but I 
have no idea what else to do at this point.  I  regret having to do this, 
and I have never done this even to the Usenet troll that has pestered the 
OS/2 community for the past 10 years (Its amazing how just that description 
and most everyone will immediately know of whom I speak), but I am just 
weary of all this.  There is no need to reply to this post.  I have had 
lots of emails of support and I am comfortable that people who use this 
service appreciate it and will continue.  Those who don't are free to go 
elsewhere.  They are even free to continue to use our service.  But it is 
not my responsibility to do work for someone that attacks VOICE, accuses me 
of lying and plans to just use my effort for his own site and his own 
competing mailing list.

I apologize for wasting the lists time on this.  I feel incredibly bad that 
this one-sided war exploded onto the eComStation mailing list where it had 
absolutely no business.  I have been doing this for about nine years now 
and have made mistakes myself.  People have forgiven my stupidity and we 
have moved on.  But this is just nuts.  If you support me instead simply 
avoid his site.  Perhaps like his predecessor he will move on to newer 
pastures that are unfamiliar with his arrogant and truly obnoxious bizarre 
behavior.

Mark

-- 

  Warpstock 2006 - Windsor, Ontario, Canada, October 12-15th, 
http://www.warpstock.org
  Warpstock Europe - http://www.warpstock.net

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