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Ärende: Press Release (0603284) for Tue, 2006 Mar 28
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Interview of the President by CNN Espa¤ol
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
March 28, 2006

Interview of the President by CNN Espa¤ol
Map Room



3:08 P.M. EST

Q Thank you for the interview. A very busy day at the White House, so I
have to ask you, you accepted the resignation of Andrew Card today -- is
this a sign of a major shakeup at the White House?

THE PRESIDENT: No, it's a sign of a fellow who has worked
five-and-a-quarter years, he's here every morning early in the morning, he
stays late, and he put his heart and soul in the job. And he came to me
about two-and-a-half weeks ago, or two weeks ago, and said, I think it may
be time for me to go on, you know, I've given it my all. And I thank him
for his service. I consider him an incredibly close friend. And, obviously,
I picked Joshua Bolten to take his place. And now Josh's job is to design a
White House staff that meets the needs of the President, which is one of
the key -- most important needs is to make sure I get information in a
timely fashion so I can make decisions.

Q Any more changes coming up?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, Josh has just begun to take a look at the White House
structure. And I haven't had a chance to talk to him about the future yet.
But right now I'm honoring and celebrating the service of Andy Card.

Q Let's talk about Canc n. You'll meet with President Fox, Prime Minister
of Canada. What do you expect to accomplish in that trip?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think it's very important for the three of us to
continue to commit ourselves to a relationship that -- a commercial
relationship based upon trade, free and fair trade, a security relationship
based upon kind of mutual understanding of how we can cooperate. We're
going to have a cultural event, we're going to go to the ruins, which will
be fantastic, the Mayan ruins.

But the point is, is that the three of us need to be interconnected, and
work closely together, for the good of our respective peoples. I'll remind
people that we're not starting anything new. We're really building on what
our predecessors left behind. In 2005 there was enormous trade between
Mexico and the United States, much more significant than it was, you know,
10 years ago. And I believe both countries benefit from that trade.

But it is also not a given that people in both our countries accept trade.
And therefore, one of the jobs of leadership is to remind people about the
benefits, that trade equals jobs, and jobs means people have a chance to
realize hopeful dreams.

Q The government of Mexico recently placed ads in U.S. papers acknowledging
their responsibility in the border problem, and saying they should have a
role in the way the guest worker program is shaped. Should Mexico have that
role? Is that appropriate?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think, first of all, the fact that they put those
ads in the papers talking about joint responsibility in the border makes it
easier for those of us who believe in comprehensive migration or
immigration reform to get something done. And I appreciate the government's
stand there.

The truth of the matter is, the laws of the United States will be written
inside the Congress. Of course, thoughtful suggestions may help. But the
job is really to get a bill out of the Senate and eventually the House --
or out of a conference committee that I can sign. And I'm interested in
comprehensive immigration reform. That includes not only border security,
but also a temporary worker plan that recognizes there are hardworking
people here doing jobs Americans won't do, and they ought to be here in
such a way so they don't have to hide in the shadows of our society.

The fundamental issue, by the way, it seems like to me, on the guest worker
plan, is should somebody get to the head of the line when it comes to
citizenship. And my answer is, no, they ought to get in line, but they
don't get to get to the head of the line. And that's where some of the
tension about the debate is taking place right now.

Q The debate is taking place in the Senate. They are discussing a plan, and
they're including your guest worker program that you've requested. But the
House said, no. The Sensenbrenner bill doesn't include a guest worker
program.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I wouldn't give up on it yet, we're just starting. For
your listeners, this is a process. The House has passed a bill, the Senate,
hopefully, will pass a bill, and then they'll get to conference, and work
something out in conference. And I have called upon both the House and the
Senate to pass a comprehensive bill. And a comprehensive bill means to make
sure you include a guest worker program as part of a comprehensive bill.

I happen to believe a guest worker program recognizes reality -- what's
taking place in our economy today. But it also -- a guest worker program is
part of border security. I mean, rather than have people sneaking across
the border to come and do jobs that Americans won't do, it seems like it
makes sense for people to be given an identification card that they can
come and use to do a job on a temporary basis so they can go back and forth
freely with this tamper-proof ID card and not have to sneak across, so that
our Border Patrol agents, on both sides of the border, are really dealing
with drug smuggling or gun smuggling or terrorists trying to sneak into the
country.

Q So the question is, after those six years, if they get the six years in
this program, how will you enforce sending people back who have to go back
who have been living --

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you'll have to have a tamper-proof card in order to
work. In other words, there will be -- it will make it much easier to have
employer enforcement in place when there is a card that you know is
tamper-proof. In other words, one that can't be forged.

Right now there's a whole document forging industry that has evolved. There
are people sneaking across in 18-wheelers or people risking their lives.
And the system is inhumane, as far as I'm concerned, and it needs to be
reformed.

Q The White House supported the Sensenbrenner bill in the House, making the
exception that you were going to pursue a temporary guest worker program.
Now, that bill includes the construction of 700 miles of border, and that
is seen not only in Mexico but in many Latin American countries as a sign
that the U.S. wants to isolate itself from the region. Is that --

THE PRESIDENT: I don't think people ought to read that into it. I think
people ought to -- first of all, the House is the beginning of the process,
as you know. But people shouldn't -- it's impractical to fence off the
border. But it is also realistic to give our Border Patrol agents tools to
be able to do their job. We ought to enforce our borders. That's what the
American people expect. I've talked to President Fox about Mexico enforcing
her southern border, and he agrees there ought to be border enforcement
down there. But he, like I, understand it's difficult to enforce large
borders.

And I don't think anybody believes that you could totally fence off the
border and be effective. But I do think we ought to be in a position to
give our Border Patrol agents better tools, more effective ways to prevent
people from smuggling people and/or drugs across our border.

Q I want to ask you about Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez. He refers to
you in very strong terms. He does the same about Secretary Rice. What is
your reaction to that, and where do you see -- how do you see that
affecting relations between your two countries?

THE PRESIDENT: I judge the President based upon his honoring of the
institutions that make democracy sound in Venezuela. I think it's very
important for leaders to honor the freedom to worship, the freedom of the
press, contracts, legal -- to honor legal contracts, to allow people to
express their opinion without fear. And it's very important for leaders
throughout the hemisphere, whether they agree with America or not, to honor
the tenets of democracy. And to the extent he doesn't do that, then I
believe he should be subject to criticism.

Q President -- Iraq. You've been telling people the U.S. is going the right
way. But the polls -- and you've said you don't follow the polls -- the
polls say people don't agree with you. Could it be that they're right and
you're wrong?

THE PRESIDENT: History will prove whether I'm right. I think I'll be right,
because I do believe freedom is universal. I remember it wasn't all that
long ago that 11 million Iraqis went to the polls in the face of terrorist
threats, in the face of potential assassination, and said, we want to be
free. That was last December.

That sentiment still exists in Iraq. The enemy has got -- those who want to
stop democracy have got one weapon, and that is the ability to kill
innocent life to get on the TV, to shake our will. And my will is not going
to be shaken. You cannot have a President make decisions based upon
yesterday's polls. You must have a President who believes in certain
principles and is willing to lead based upon a vision for a better future.

And I believe my vision for a better future entails having a democratic
Iraq as a friend and an ally, and to prevent the stated goals of the enemy
from taking place. They want us to leave Iraq so they can establish a safe
haven from which to launch attacks on our people again. And I take their
goal seriously, and I will use all resources at my disposal in order to
protect the American people.

Q Muchas gracias, Se or Presidente.

THE PRESIDENT: S¡ , por nada.

END 3:18 P.M. EST

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