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Skriven 2009-11-19 08:54:00 av Dave Drum (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: No, no, no & yes, yes, ye
=================================
-=> Michael Loo wrote to Dave Drum <=-

 DD> I think that we'll stand the Marketroids against the wall - BEFORE the
 DD> lawyers.

 ML> I don't know how that follows from what we've been
 ML> saying recently, but I am happy to agree.

It comes from your previous post in this thread --

begin pasted quote:

 ML> Perhaps the people I see in the city are worse than those in
 ML> the pristine midwest, but around me are lots of folks who are
 ML> obsessed with money - second only to those who are obsessed
 ML> with work. It makes those obsessed with sex or flying long
 ML> distances much more palatable by comparison.

end pasted quote

And my thought that people are marketed into obsession with money, work as a
means to get money, sex, etc., etc., etc. by very clever marketing and
marketroids. Money, AFAIAC, is just a means of exchange to get the things I
desire. Since I do not succumb easily to the blandishments of the marketroids
and their rosy pictures of "success", etc. I am not obsessed with chasing the
material objects of that "success'. But, I see others who are - to the point of
losing their unique identities and personalities and their chance to contribute
something positive to this old mud ball we call home. And I blame the
marketroids - who may also be the victims of marketroids past. But, machs
nicht. Up Against The Wall Motherf****r!!! And, no, you can't have a last
Marlboro - it's dangerous to the planet's health.

 ML> ===

 ML> And as your quoted report shows that windshear and pilot
 ML> error were the causes.
 DD> According to the NTSB - who always blame the pilot/human error. I
 DD> suspect that the lightning strike screwed up all or most of the flight
 DD> instruments and may have knocked out the powered assist on the
 DD> controls. The FH-227 was a pretty, high-wing, commuter style turbo-prop
 DD> aero machine which had a reputation among those who flew them as being
 DD> "twitchy" in flight.

 ML> You may suspect; but ...

 ML>   There was no in-flight damage to, or malfunction of, the
 ML>   aircraft's structure, powerplants, or systems. There was
 ML>   no evidence that lightning caused any malfunction of
 ML>   essential systems or caused structural damage.
 ML>   -- from report NTSB-AAR-74-5

 ML> Believe me, if there had been, the captain and FO would have
 ML> pled that afterwards (they both survived).

 ML> There is one possible lightning-based factor brought up in
 ML> the report, but it isn't what one might think:

 ML>   Other than the CVR malfunction, there was no evidence of
 ML>   any other malfunction caused by lighting [sic] in the
 ML>   aircraft's electrical circuits, including those circuits
 ML>   which involve the navigation and communication systems.
 ML>   Although the pilots were unable to recall lightning
 ML>   strikes near the cockpit, it is possible that lightning
 ML>   might have had an adverse effect on the pilots. If
 ML>   lightning had struck near the cockpit, the pilots could
 ML>   have been temporarily blinded for 10 to 20 seconds - a
 ML>   sufficient amount of time for a pilot to lose control of
 ML>   an aircraft on final approach.

 DD> Here is a link to the report - http://tinyurl.com/Ozark-227

 ML> Here's a link to the real report - http://tinyurl.com/Ozark227a

Thanks. Sometimes it takes some reading between the lines. It looks like the
pilots were somewhat (quite a bit) below their glide slope ... and basically
flew the plane into the ground. If they were landing on instruments (as they
should have been) and a lightning strike screwed up the readings of the glide
slope indicator (without knocking out or burning up the instrument) then
....... Still lots of ifs and shoulda, coulda, woulda stuff and nits to pick.
None of which will prove or solve anything. Especially as that particular wreck
was unique and not repeated (Ozark's only fatal, BTW).

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
 
      Title: Fatal Chocolate Crepes
 Categories: Desserts, Breads, Fruits, Chocolate
      Yield: 6 servings
 
MMMMM--------------------------CREPES-------------------------------
      3 lg Eggs
    3/4 c  Water
    1/2 c  Half & half
    3/4 c  + 2 tb all-purpose flour
      3 tb Cocoa
      2 tb Granulated sugar
    1/8 ts Salt
      3 tb Butter; melted, cooled
           Cooking spray for pan
           Fruit compote or fruit pie
           - filling
           Whipped cream for topping
   
MMMMM----------------------CHOCOLATE SAUCE--------------------------
    3/4 c  Sugar
    1/3 c  Cocoa
    1/2 c  + 2 tb evaporated milk
    1/4 c  Butter
    1/8 ts Salt

  Filled with fruit, these crepes are light and airy and sweet
  and tart at the same time. Top with whipped cream and home
  made chocolate sauce and you have a delicious, light dessert
  that pleases just about every palate.

  CREPES:

  1. Combine eggs, water and cream in blender; blend 10 secs.
  Add flour, cocoa, sugar, salt and butter; blend until smooth.
  Let stand at room temperature 30 minutes.

  2. Spray 6" crepe pan lightly with cooking spray; heat over
  medium heat. For each crepe, pour 2 to 3 tablespoons batter
  in pan; lift and tilt pan to spread batter. Return to heat;
  cook until surface begins to dry. Loosen crepe around edges;
  turn and lightly cook other side. Stack crepes, placing wax
  or parchment paper between each. Keep covered.

  3. Just before serving, place 2 tablespoons fruit filling
  onto each crepe; roll up. Place crepes, seam-side down, on
  dessert plate. Drizzle with chocolate sauce and top with
  whipped cream.

  CHOCOLATE SAUCE: Stir together sugar and cocoa in small
  saucepan; gradually stir in evaporated milk. Add butter
  and salt. Cook over medium heat, stirring constantly,
  until mixture boils. Remove from heat.

  Recipe Origin: Based on a recipe on an old Hershey's Can
  of Cocoa - I only have the label, and it's in French for
  some reason... 

  From: http://www.domesticgoddess.ca

  Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

MMMMM

ENJOY!!!

From Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen
Home of YAHOOOOAHHHH Hot Sauce & Hardin Cider 

 

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