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Text 20382, 85 rader
Skriven 2012-01-24 23:21:00 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Michael Loo
Ärende: Re: Restaurant problems
===============================
 -=> On 01-23-12  05:28,  Michael Loo <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Restaurant problems 106 <=-

 DS> Interesting.  I would not have thought that beef would be a food that
 DS> would be likely to cause a problem.

 ML> For a steak, since the microorganisms tend to live at the
 ML> surface, and for most people searing the outside is a
 ML> prerequisite to serving and eating it, less a problem;
 ML> but ground beef, where unless the utmost precautions are
 ML> exercised in the preparation, often gets contamination
 ML> from the surface bacteria, and these do very well hiding
 ML> in the interior, hence the admonitions against eating
 ML> rare burgers.

I did not realize that you were talking about ground beef.  That I can
understand as being a possible source of contamination, for exactly the
reasons you state.

OTOH, I do like hamburgers medium rare if I can get them.


 ML> Various seafoods are more often
 DS> the culprit, such as the clam that got to Dave Sacerdote at the Boston
 DS> picnic -- and the frozen shrimp dim-sum purchased at Lotto market
 DS> years ago that got to me.

 ML> Some reasons include the growing of seafood in contaminated
 ML> waters (very common);

That is one reason that we have switched to only buying wild caught Gulf
shrimp instead of farmed shrimp from various places in Asia.

 ML> the tendency to cook the foods less or
 ML> not at all, because of their delicacy; and the fact that the
 ML> bacteria that grow in water are more likely to be immediately
 ML> troublesome than those that grow in air, being accustomed to
 ML> thrive in places such as digestive tracts.

I'd not thought about that last thing, but it does make sense.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
 
      Title: Beef Stew
 Categories: Crockpot, Beef, Stew
      Yield: 4 servings
 
  2 1/2 lb Stew beef; 2" cubes
      8    Carrots; cut diagonally
           In 2" chunks
      3 md Idaho potatoes; chunked
      2 lg Onions; Spanish or Videlia
      1 cn Italian stewed tomatoes;
           -(14-1/2 oz can)
      2 tb Flour
           -Seasoned pepper;to taste
    1/4 ts Thyme
    1/4 ts Basil
    1/4 ts Oregano
      1 tb Worcestershire sauce
 
  Place half of veggies in the pot, add beef cubes. Mix flour,
  pepper and spices and sprinkle over beef. Add rest of veggies and
  top with the stewed tomatoes and their juice. Sprinkle with
  Worcestershire sauce. Cover and cook on LOW 8 to 10 hours, or
  until meat is very tender and veggies are done. If desired,
  potatoes may be omitted and the stew, when done, may be served
  with large macaroni cooked separately. Leftovers can be
  refrigerated all in the same pot and reheated in bowls in the
  microwave at 50% power.
  
  /\/\ichael  =================
  & Ms.     /\/\ | /-\ /\/\ |
  \/\/eslie   =================
  From: Michael Grosz                   Date: 02-11-95
 
MMMMM


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