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Skriven 2012-03-31 17:00:10 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
  Kommentar till text 23078 av DAVE DRUM (1:261/1381)
Ärende: Chowder
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Hi Dave,


 BF> 3 slices Bacon, Diced
 BF> 3 tbsp flour

 DD> I would probably substitute instant mashed potatoes - they make an
 DD> excellent thickener.

 RH> I'd use the flour, instant potatoes are a no go here. Potato starch is
 RH> another option.

 DD> I did say "Ruth style suggestions". And what are instant mash if not
 DD> dried potato starch. And convenient, without lumps. I keep a box of

Instant mashed are dried potatoes with a lot of other stuff, including
chemical soup; potato starch is nothing but potato starch (according to
the can of Manischevitz I've got on my shelf).


 DD> that famous Latino brand "El Cheapo" instant mash on hand just for
 DD> thickening soups, chowdahs, sauces (where it is appropriate), etc.
 DD> Certainly not for eating as "mashed" potatoes. For that I have my
 DD> grandmother's old stainless steel and enameled metal ricer to make
 DD> lumpless mashed potatoes a breeze.

I've got a ricer that gets used as a spaezle maker. (G) My mom used to
use a manual masher but some years ago started using a hand mixer. The
potatoes went from having some lumps to a lot of lumps. Dad isn't fond
of alternatives to potatoes so they eat a lot of mashed--talked to them
on Skype the other night and he was complaining about how the 5 & 10
pound bags of potatoes my brother picks up just don't last that long.
They're still, 7 months after Hurricane Irene hit, without a grocery
store in town so my brother does most of their shopping on his way home
from work or otherwise. They did go down to another town where a store
was closing to get some deals but it's a major trip for them now.


 DD> I'd probably use a 24 oz bag of store-brand frozen corn - don't have
 DD> to drain that.

 RH> Probably, if you could find a 24 oz bag. If not, one full 16 oz and
 RH> half of another. Use a better name brand, not necessarily the big name
 RH> but not the store brand as they tend to be of a lower quality. Do not
 RH> thaw before adding, makes more of a mess in the bag if you do.

 DD> Many of the store-brand veggies come in 24 oz sacks around here. And I
 DD> know which store brands are of decent quality. I have a USDA listing
 DD> of which "Establishment #" corresponds with which establishment. Many

OK, I've not seen a list like that or 24 oz bags.

 DD> times store brand stuff is done by the majors - but, you aren't paying
 DD> for the major's
 DD> advertising budget. Not to mention that I have (except for a couple

Some of the store brands do seem to be of a lesser quality than the name
brands I've noticed over the years.


 DD> rare exceptions) found ALDI's canned and frozen house-brand products
 DD> to be of more than acceptable (in some cases superior) quality.

An Aldi's just opened here in WF on Thursday. We got a bunch of paper
products, some fresh produce and some fruit snacks (100% juice) that we
like. I don't think it will be a major store for our shopping/eating
style tho. I don't buy many canned vegetables (tomatoes are the major
exception) and am buying a lot more fresh than frozen. Used to buy a lot
of frozen, especially when the girls were with us, but have done a major
swing away from them over the last few years. The taste is just so much
better, IMO. I know, field to frozen advertises the veggies lose less
nutrients but canning, especially, takes a lot out of them as well.


 DD> And a small (8 oz) can of Green Giant or store brand Mexi-corn - just
 DD> for the colour accents.

 RH> No, chop up some red or green (or both) bell pepper, saute lightly in a
 RH> bit of the bacon grease. Color plus more flavor.

 DD> But, I stock Mexi-corn for when I am making salsa. I don't stock bell
 DD> pepper at all times. Not to mention that even a small bell pepper
 DD> would be too much for just the one pot of corn chowder. And with the
 DD> Mexi-corn you get both red and green.  Bv)=

I don't use corn in my salsa, don't want Steve to have too much so he
can keep migraines at bay. OTOH, I do buy bell peppers on a regular
basis. Not as many green as I used to, and I know they cost more, but we
use a lot of reds and some orange or yellow. But, if I had green, I
would use it. Just a matter of choice--and what makes this echo keep
going, as we debate things like this. (G)


 DD> ... It's not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown
 DD> with force.

I've encountered ones like that. Right now my main reading is "Bible
Doctrine" by Wayne Grudem (Steve calls it "theology light") for my last
class.


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Ruth
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