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Skriven 2012-08-15 12:56:08 av HAP NEWSOM (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: why why 107
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Howdy Michael!

-> I don't particularly want to put a damper on things,
-> but the subject of colon cancer is a hot spot with me.
->
As it is with me, my mom is a 20 year + colon cancer
survivor. As she says, she may wear a bag, but she's
alive enough to do it!
 
-> I am not extrapolating to other forms of cancer,
-> where regimens of some effectiveness have been
-> developed and continue to be enhanced and refined.
-> Leukemia for example has been mostly declawed, and
-> breast, prostate, and many other solid tumors now
-> have high survival rates.
->
As Anne and I have discovered, there are
almost as many different cancers as there
are rhinoviruses. Even within a single "genre"
like breast cancer, there are huge variations
from patient to patient and tumor to tumor. It's
confusing as hell that's for sure. The more they
seem to learn, the more confusing it seems to be.
Some are slow, some are fast, some are aggressive
and some don't respond to the "traditional" 
treatment plans.
 
->  HN> While $$ is a part of pretty much everything
->  HN> these days, I'm fairly certain that the oncologist
->  HN> is ethical enough to not let that be his/her primary
->  HN> concern.
-> 
-> The best thing I can hypothesize for this person is
-> that he blindly follows the instructions of the drug
-> company, but his behavior damns him. He applied this
-> regimen until Billy got too sick to take it, and when
-> Billy was cut open down at the medical school, it was
-> discovered that the disease had not only not been
-> slowed, it had in fact spread to many other sites.
-> Everyone gave him days to weeks, and he's managed to
-> outbattle the disease for longer than anyone, myself
-> included, would have imagined. When word got out that
-> he had outlived the stats and the predictions, these
-> badgering phone calls started coming in.
->
It if is indeed the case you present I would 
change oncologists immediately and do as much
as possible to spread the word about this one.
 
->  There seem to be no shortage of folks in
->  HN> need of the therapy
-> 
-> Nobody needs this therapy. It should still be in the
-> animal testing stage, and then only in order to find
-> something better. Quite simply, they are charging big
-> bucks for something that doesn't work.
->
I cannot imagine that the therapy would have 
gotten to the stage it has without proper
testing and positive results. Just because
Billy has not responded (or more correctly
his cancer has not responded) as predicted
does not mean multiple others have not had
successful results. This is small solace when
the person you care about is the exception
to the rule, but nothing seems to work for
everyone. Anne had to change her chemo "mix"
a couple of times before they got the "cocktail"
that seemed to both affect the cancer the
most (speculation by research primarily)and
her physical well being the least (purely 
subjective of course, the impact was 
huge to her and me).  
Now if it is entirely in a clinical trial
stage then I might understand that 
the results may be not what one would
hope for...but even at the clinical 
trial stage, it should have been based
on good science and a stiff testing 
regimen before reaching the clinical
trials.

->  , and I'm sure the Dr thinks
->  HN> that it would have benefits for Billy. However
->  HN> quality of life is more of a factor for the family
->  HN> than the medico's...
-> 
-> It doesn't make people live longer, and the side effects
-> as advertised (and witnessed) are pretty bad. It shrinks
-> tumors but doesn't get rid of them. The doc undoubtedly
-> knows this, and I am quite certain that absent substantial
-> brainwashing he has little or no concern for the well-being
-> of this particular patient.
-> 
I'm not privy to the particular regimen 
Billy has endured, and can only take you
at your word...and if that's the case I'd
switch to an oncologist who elicits more 
faith in his motives and methods.
chat with you soon
ha
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