Text 13417, 147 rader
Skriven 2005-09-27 18:56:17 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
  Kommentar till text 12948 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: Re: Cell phone cost
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*** Quoting Roy Witt from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS> Yeah, she took it down with little hassle to what the Doc said was ok
 CS> and left it at that.

RW> His problem was Emphysema, so he never did cut down on coffee. Coffee
RW> probably the only thing he enjoyed in his last days.

Sorry about that.  Mom quit smoking when she was about my age.  I'm trying too
but so far just managed to cut down to 'sensible' (bit less than 1/2 pack a
day when home, 1/3-1/4 when at sea).


 RW>> That's one way of doing it. Still keeps her on the caffiene though.

 CS> It was within what the Doc said was ok.  She wasnt told to cut all
 CS> caffiene, just get it to sensible levels.

RW> Sounds like good advice.

Yeah.  I hate fanatic Doctors who prescribe by rote.  Like you walk in, they
ask your name, then hand you a diet change without even knowing more than your
name...(Like why you are there even!).  Had a lulu in Norfolk.  Fellow was a
dermatologist.  Told me to cut all fats to 10% and no chocolate before he knew
why I was there (contact dermatitis from a spilled chemical down my boot that
wet my sock and I couldnt change for 45 mins, made a nasty rash but the stuff
was not carcenigenic, just caustic).  Shipboard life is exciting but not
always so safe...


 RW>> She's entitled to some of his. Whatever those married years added up
 RW>> t that'd be the determining factor.

 CS> She's probably getting that then.

RW> Good. She probably deserves it.

She does.  She's pretty sharp and savvy about money things too.


 RW>> He got off cheap.

 CS> He didnt pay that even.  Took a court order when I was 10 to get the
 CS> payments started.  Have a classic letter from 'Gov Reagan' that we
 CS> had to move to California to actually get the money and no
 CS> backpayments could be expected.  So, 8 years he didnt even pay that.
 CS> 52,000$ Mom added up in 'arrears' out of that minimal payment before
 CS> I turned 18.

RW> Had she persued it, the state (CA) will enforce those support payments
RW> and make him catch up the amount that he was in arrears. They did that

Ah you didnt note that she had a letter already.  No, she had to move all 4 of
us to California to get the money and by then, it wasnt that much.  This
changed *later* but not in the 60's.

 CS> out and by a proxy that would only tell him we were alive and well.

RW> Ewwwww. That must have hurt.

Yup.  He never blamed us kids for it, but I am sure it was not a good thing to
experience.

 CS> Charlotte.  Mom swears the final moment was when he drop-kicked me
 CS> out of a high chair across the room.  She left the next day.  I was
 CS> about 18 months old.

RW> First off, C-sections are easier on the body, so you're better off for
RW> Had a Psyc teacher in college once who swore by them. She had 3 kids t
RW> way.

Hehe she's nuts.  It's much harder on the body to recover from.  MUCH harder.
It helps though if it isnt the 'ohmyghodgottadoacsectionnow' like I had.  10
mins after they looked at me I was being opened up.  A portion of my belly has
no feeling (not a problem portion for sex) and I have never since been able to
do more than minimums for situps due to muscular damage.  It didnt even save
me from hard labor as they waited until after I was in that for 24 freakin'
screamin' hours (no pain killer, I wasnt dialating right and that would have
slowed it).

There are blessings though.  When they lifted Charlotte out the cord was
wrapped *twice* around her neck.  Only the nerve damage in my back which
prevented dialation, allowed her to survive.  Her head never entered the birth
canal when she went into total alarm status but they moved fast and she was ok
though more than a bit blue.

RW> Take care of your back, it's a miserable life as you age if you don't.

I've been careful with it always.  Even as a kid I knew something was a bit
'off' but until I hurt it when I was 19 (working in a hospital) had no xrays
to show that I was right to be a careful lifter.  I have had only a few times
where it's been a problem, but thats i think mostly because i am careful.  I
can and do lift 50lbs and walk off with it long distances, but i do so with
proper lifting.

 RW>> Hopefully she invested some of it in another house.

 CS> Yes, which is why I've lived so many places.  Almost like military
 CS> transfers, every 2-3 years.  Mom timed the sales to hit summer so I
 CS> rarely had to change schools in the middle of a year.  That money was
 CS> used to raise us 3 kids.

RW> No offense, but it does sound like she might be a 'little touched'..Na

I think, a mix of the 2 is right.  It's nothing I will ever solve so I decided
long ago just to love'em both for what they are.  Dad's gone these past 3
years and to be honest, his mind left several years before that so his passing
was more of a blessing when it came.  Mom for all her foibles, did a good job
of raising 3 kids alone in the 60's and 70's.  I'm the least successful of the
3 if you can imagine that!

RW> 'Please don't sick your mother on me again.'...

Hehe digression but i got along famously with my MIL.  

 CS>> least, I'd like to think so!
 CS>>                                        xxcarol

 RW>> I'm sure you are. Narry a nasty word out of you in all the years
 RW>> I've known you here. Even in the heat of battle.

 CS> Naw.  You think too highly.  I have been known to make my share of
 CS> bitchy comments.

RW> I know, I've seen um. Still, you're far easier going than anyone here.

Well yeah, but thats easy stuff!


RW> Well, you havn't convinced me. :o)

Hehe then be unconvinced Roy. I've even *started* flamers!  Remember that long
ago RC12?  I called him an asshole in IRC which started it all.  He never
forgave and never forgot.  He's the one who deleted Tim Strike (TG author)
just after he sent out the y2K fix.  I mean, same week....  Said he was a dead
node.
I told him that was wrong and the node was alive, and he said no, he was dead.
So I pointed him to the Y2K fix, and he insisted the node was gone, so I
called him an asshole in the TG IRC chat area.  His reaction to this was so
pervasive, it caused the R12 nodes to not have a proper representation in the
Z1 RCC events that lead to the election of Janis.  R12 nodes never did catch
on (most didnt, a few did).  The style of the vote literally changed due to
the r12C not replying to repeated requests for feedback.
                                       xxcarol

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