Text 35184, 190 rader
Skriven 2006-07-29 18:34:32 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Kommentar till text 35062 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
Ärende: Canadian "Skills"
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29 Jul 06 15:09, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Roy Witt:
CS> *** Quoting Roy Witt from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***
CS>> his neck so now can drive again (severe arthritis stuff).
RW>> Like carpal tunnel? I'm working on a cure for that.
CS> (Joe's arthritis). No.
CS> Well, Joe's case is some odd type that affects the neck and hips
CS> pretty badly. Not at all related to Carpal Tunnel.
No doubt.
CS> I have that, or something close to it. Symptoms close but not the
CS> narrowing tunnel for the nerves. They havent figured it out and I
CS> just learned to live with it.
CS> 800 mg Motrims are my friend <G>.
That's nasty stuff. My FIL was dying of bone cancer and had a drawer full
of it. His final days were on again, off again excruciating pain. They put
him on morphine; he asked for more. No go, they say he'd get addicted to
it. Big deal. Poor man died from the pain, not the desease.
RW>>> fi hub...he was very good at it too. His replacement, John Himes,
RW>>> wasn't nearly as good. John and I went round and round about the
RW>>> way his syst
CS>> I had the misfortune to be under this OZ guy who would be down for
CS>> days at a time then blame me for not connecting.
RW>> Sounds like John Himes. The blame game, I mean. I even asked Brenda
RW>> if could take his place as I knew I could do a better job than John.
RW>> That when she assigned me to Andy.
CS> Yes. He'd get mad at me for trying to dial in to get my mail, if you
CS> can believe that.
And Himes would get mad because I'd call into get it, and his system
wasn't serving it. That was MY fault...
CS>> Fact is by then, I probably made him uncomfortable as i was a better
CS>> hub than he was and was feeding more systems (points with full BBSes
CS>> under them, yes, they paid CRP). Due to 'conflict of interest' as
CS>> the treasurer though, I didnt want to be a hub.
RW>> I wouldn't have minded at the time, as I had a few extra PCs setup
RW>> the
CS> For me, I just felt 'uncomfortable' with the idea that I'd have to
CS> cut my own downlinks if they didnt pay me on time. Note, I seldom
CS> had to make any 'cuts' as i'd work with folks and lots of others
CS> would donate a few extra dollars and say 'to whoegver needs it'. CRP
CS> was normally under 5$ a quarter. I understand something happened
CS> later in the management to make it higher, but that has no relation
CS> to me. I saw it drop as low as 78cents once.
When I first started it was less than 1.25$...that's because of all the
people in the net drawing mail. As the net started to thin out, the CRP
went up...what I didn't like was the 5 days that there was no mail because
the machines weren't fixed, although there was plenty of dough in the
kitty.
CS>> Andy was great. At some point, he was my hub as well. Funny thing
CS>> is we entered at about the same time and had helped one another get
CS>> setup.
RW>> Don't know about when the two of you started, but Andy had more
RW>> links other FTNs than anybody I know of. It could be that he was a
RW>> little bi more experienced by the time he met you.
CS> Grin, perhaps you misundersand this one. Andy and i were 'butt
CS> buddies' who setup at the same time. His experience and mine matched
CS> except at the one point I was doing the CRP thing and he was a hub.
CS> Our othernet experiences were mostly him as my NC, me RC feeding him
CS> and other NC's in west coast.
Ahhh, so you both gained experience from the same sources.
CS>> He shifted to hub while I was the Net202 Treasurer. (I gather the
CS>> fellow who took that over from me at last wasnt nearly as
CS>> careful and there was an interim fellow for a bit who was fired and
CS>> i had to come back in sometime around 1994).
RW>> And there were some just like those after you left. I was sick of
RW>> thei CRP by 97.
CS> It wasnt managed with the heart along with the need to just pay the
CS> bills. My system was simple. If you pay more than the amount and
CS> dont expressly add a note with what to do with that, it goes to
CS> offset the next quarter's CRP. If you add a note to use it where I
CS> think best, a fellow sysop with adversity may be paid off for their
CS> CRP. If you add a note to put it in the machine fund, it will be
CS> repair money for the mailer.
I just mailed the check...all I cared about was the mail...
CS> I can honestly be proud of the early NET202 CRP setup as it was the
CS> most fair one in all Fidonet and many places tried to model off of
CS> us. The only 'bad' thing I ever did was 'ask' folks to not show up
CS> on my doorstep at mid-night to pay in person, but I never turned
CS> anyone away who did that. (Bitched gently in the sysop echos but no
CS> names mentioned ever on who had done it). Took payments at every
CS> sysop breakfast or by mail, your choice. Oh, couldnt logistically
CS> manage advance quarter payments because it was just too many people
CS> and not stable enough in cost. It was after all, home hobby stuff not
CS> a paying job.
Gotcha...
RW>> If I recall right, there was one person in the net who hosted some
RW>> of net computers and they were always going down for some reason or
RW>> anoth Brenda finally went to the guys house and picked all of them
RW>> up and go them back online, asap.
CS> I think I heard of that. PC Conect by then too right?
I was too new to know what that was at the time. :o) Just send me the
mail.
CS>> Yup. Got voted in 6 months before I finished my stint on the
CS>> STENNIS but told'em we'd need to wait so another fellow took it til
CS>> i could transfer. He did a good job. 6 months or so after that, I
CS>> was appointed as temp RC13 pending election (the old one became
CS>> Z1C). See, I'd made the mistake of saying i wanted to learn more and
CS>> asked some good questions in the regional echo <g>.
RW>> LOL! See what you get yourself into...
CS> Well, I B Stupid <g>.
CS>> *chuckle* I'm as complex as a tube sock as said so believe me when I
CS>> say that by now, I know alot about*C things at all levels of the
CS>> game. I'm not particularily good with filebone, but I can meet any
CS>> need in any other area and can manage that one 'well enough'.
RW>> Sounds like it.
CS> I'm still not 'good' with filebone. Janis is so much better, I cant
CS> imagine the tricks she must know. I'm a better 'hub' though for
CS> message traffic, not that she's bad.
Heh, I remember the day that Bob Kohl told me that I couldn't get files
from him because files aren't sent via Fidonet...
CS>> never had a fight?
RW>> Yes, but we've had our differences too.
CS> Oh sure! I've had them with many, you not alone in that!
CS>> opposite ends of a situation but even then we were overall decent to
CS>> one another.
RW>> I endeavor to be decent to those who reciprocate the same. Those
RW>> peopl usually have my respect, whether they're right or wrong.
CS> {smile}.
Yes, you're included.
RW>> When I'm attacked or accused of something out of the blue, I
RW>> retaliate kind until they're either buried up to their necks in it
RW>> or call a tru Some people don't know when to give it up, so they
RW>> stay on the 'shit' list.
CS> Yes, thats you. Me, I divert them mostly and find a common ground.
CS> The only one i never could do that with, was that R12C fellow who's
CS> long gone other than a no-bogus entry at my mailer. When I realized
CS> at last I just couldnt even enjoy Fidonet and was about to quit due
CS> to his constant flamers at me, I got some help with how to filter
CS> mail out.
Was his name Mike O'Conner?
CS> Whats never made sense to me was he hated me because my region was
CS> more progressive than his on the same things he beat me up on. Oh
CS> well. He's gone and I'm still here.
CS> xxcarol
If it was O'Conner, he wasn't liked by many because of some of the tricks
he played...like taking a poll of the region and then voting for someone
they didn't like as ZC...
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