Text 8212, 72 rader
Skriven 2005-03-25 13:59:10 av mark lewis (1:3634/12)
   Kommentar till text 8147 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: FidoNews 22:12 [02/06]: General Articles
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 MB>>> Since those involved are likely running servers on their cable

 ml>> seems to me that someone should define "server" before starting all
 ml>> this...

 MB> Bring the matter to the ISP and let them do the defining.  It
 MB> is their network.

at that point, the damage is already done... better to know before hand than to
get someone in trouble and be a snitch, ifyaknowwhatimean ;)

 MB>>> connections; perhaps you should engage in a little game of
 MB>>> your own and notify their providers that they are doing so.
 MB>>> If something results from your effort there will be a "lesson
 MB>>> here for all of us".

 ml>> and why are you stirring up shit and egging on more troubles
 ml>> to be started??

 MB> Fair is fair, right?

so let THEM fight their fight... no need for anyone else to get involved, is
there?

 MB> I just love the double standard of people in Fidonet today.
 MB> They complain about copyrights yet I know they share software
 MB> they should not.  They complain about ISP use policies but
 MB> violate them too.  I fail to see how one can should trust
 MB> someone who does not honor a user agreement (an ISP use
 MB> policy) any more than someone who allegedly violates a
 MB> copyright.

agreed...

 MB> If you want to have an ethical network you can start by
 MB> washing your hands and begin by passing "judgement" in equal
 MB> weight.  Judge those you do not like by the same standards as
 MB> everyone else.  Until then, if you cannot handle it then
 MB> perhaps you should stay out of the discussion altogether.

easy, there... i've done nothing to you...

 MB> The issue I raised is no different but you whine like a bitch
 MB> because someone you favor might get "hurt" even though they
 MB> are doing something they are not supposed to be.  I say too
 MB> bad.

show me where /i'm/ whining like a bitch... i dare ya! looks to me that you may
be confusing me with another...

 MB> Besides, since we all care about property and rights of the
 MB> owner, imagine how much money these ISPs could gain if the
 MB> sysops running servers would pay the commercial rates their
 MB> use policies demand?  Here are my favorite quotes:

  rc>> Sorry, but he openned this door himself.  I can guarantee
  rc>> you that had he not been acting in the manner he has been,
  rc>> this never would have been an issue.

 MB> -or-

  rc>> I think there is a lesson here for all of us. I wonder how
  rc>> many people are willing to see it.

 MB> I guess there is some wisdom in those words after all.  :-)

yeah, no doubt... but nothing there about causing problems for someone who has
done nothing in the current fighting that's been going on...

)\/(ark

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