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Skriven 2008-03-15 18:44:16 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 12870 av Jeff Bowman (1:229/500)
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14 Mar 08 21:11, Jeff Bowman wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> The same thing had happened in Texas before we moved here. Every Dem
 RW>> in the state still talks about getting cheated out of their rightful
 RW>> place. The DA of Travis county brought charges of inpropieties
 RW>> against now a former US Congressman. Of course, he failed to get a
 RW>> conviction.

 JB> Being from Tennessee, and not generally supporting many of our
 JB> conservative lawmakers, I do personally find our system unfair when
 JB> it comes to the big elections. I have little reason to vote, because
 JB> TN always goes Republican, and therefore all the state's electoral
 JB> votes back the other candidate. Even when Gore ran, we're his home
 JB> state, and we still went to Bush.  The only real reason for a
 JB> democrat to vote for president in Tennessee is to fill out your local
 JB> stuff on the ballot while you're there.

Well, as an Independant, I can see why TN doesn't have any Dems in the
Congress, if that's how it works there. And AlGore must have somebody
there who likes/liked him, or he wouldn't have been elected to Congress so
many times before he became VP...At least Walter Mondale, 1984 Prez
candidate, won his own state when he ran. Of course, that was the ONLY
state he won.

 JB> Whenever it's election time, so far, Tennessee has shown they want
 JB> some of the worst conservatives in various offices they can find,
 JB> just because of the party.

Oh? I kinda thought your states' 2008 Presidential offering did a fine job
when he was a Senator.

 JB> For president, it's Bush.

Not this election.

 JB> For senate, it's Lamar Alexander and (for my area) Bob Corker.  I
 JB> despise Corker in particular, mostly because I knew he was going to
 JB> win regardless of his dirty campaign.  Plus, his opponent was black.
 JB> But I have no use for Lamar, either.

Is that the same Lamar Alexander who ran for President one year?

 JB> Somehow we managed to get Phil Bredesen (a democrat) for governor way
 JB> back around 2002, probably because people were glad to get rid of
 JB> Donald Sundquist finally, who had managed to make everyone hate him,
 JB> Republican and Democrat alike.  He liked taxes, which isn't going to
 JB> get you liked here.


Hmmmm. That's usually why Democrats fail to get elected. Unless they keep
their mouths shut about raising your taxes before he gets elected.

 JB> Anyway, Bredesen has done a pretty good job so far, from trying to
 JB> fix this horrible mess of Tenncare, improve our schools (for which
 JB> he's done a lot), fighting against drugs, etc etc.

 JB> He's not your textbook democrat, because he supports things like the
 JB> death penalty.  I like someone, on either side of the fence, who is
 JB> willing to deviate from typical standpoints.  Tends to show some
 JB> independent thinking.

I like that...independent thinking.

 RW>> Yeah, if you're watching news programs by NBC and the rest. Or
 RW>> reading the New York Times and Washington Post. Denial isn't a river
 RW>> in Egypt.

 JB> How does the news network affect how many crimes the Republican party
 JB> has committed?

It's not that, it's the crimes the Dems have done that go unreported. How
many times has NBC mentioned that Spitzer is a Democrat? I'll bet it
wasn't mentioned once, or at least not until it was mentioned on
conservative talk radio.

 JB> Because it's not hard to find that info anywhere. Fox News just
 JB> doesn't tend to like to cover it.  Or they "accidently"
 JB> label them a democrat.

Not that I know of...Fox News lables all those crooks by their crimes.

 JB> I don't see any lack of Spitzer coverage on NBC, CNN, or any of those
 JB> networks.

They can't help but mention it, now that it's a major story. They would
just as soon keep it under wraps if the could.

 RW>> JB> Democrats aren't above being criminals, but they're either doing
 RW>> it
 RW>> JB> less, or are usually smart enough to not get caught.

 RW>> You've got to be awfully young to believe that.

 JB> That, or I come from a different generation of politics.  You talk of
 JB> corruption in the Democratic party from decades ago, and that is
 JB> apparently part of your basis for your assumptions now,

Actually, I've just recently been enlightened about that.

 JB> where as I see the corruption in the Republican party in the here and
 JB> now, and have no real impression of any widescale Democratic
 JB> corruption like from back when you refer.

That's because they smooze you into thinking they're the greatest.

 JB> The only deviations for me would be Clinton, and for you would be
 JB> Nixon.

Nixon was a great President. I always thought he was a victim of his
staff.

 JB> And like you, I just might end up carrying those natural assumptions
 JB> of the parties as I get older.
 JB> Regardless of the fact that both parties change as people come and
 JB> go, for better or worse.

Not hardly. I always thought Truman was a great and honest President. He
wasn't, according to the recent knowledge I've learned.

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