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Skriven 2008-05-24 23:34:02 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 15950 av Joe Schweier (1:275/400)
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Hello Joe,

On Saturday May 24 2008 08:31, you wrote to me:

 JS> Freedom is having the right to make a choice...

I have that right too. What is the difference?

 JS>>> Freedom is the ability to make "YOUR" choice... HAHAHA  Not just
 JS>>> select from the ones presented to you.

 MvdV>> So you can choose to visit Mars?

 JS> Yes U can... Here in the US anyway... That's my poit. People here have
 JS> the choice to deam and excell...

Everyone has the choice to dream. But dreaming does not get you on Mars.

 JS> if there's a way to get their there will be people waiting in line to
 JS> get there.  And the beauty of it all... it'll be that dreamer who will
 JS> find a way to get their... More than likely an american.

More likely a Chinese. Yes, maybe some day people will walk on Mars. But not
tomorrow and not next year. I expect the chance that I will live to see it
significantly less than 50%. And the chance that I will be among those people i
estimate as infinitisimal.

You can dream, everyone has that right. But the reality is that neither you nor
I can expect to ever go to Mars. It is not a choice that is available to us.


 JS>>> This is what I love about the US... "ALL" the people that come
 JS>>> have the freedom of being wealthy or not... your choice.

 MvdV>> So why is not everyone wealthy then?

 JS> Some people chose not to... simple enough isn't it.

Simple but not credible.

 JS>>> There are millions of ethnic people there that are wealthy
 JS>>> millions that are not... millions of whites who have money and
 JS>>> millions that don't.

 MvdV>> Do people *choose* to be poor in your country?

 JS> Sometimes I think so...

I don't believe it.

 JS>>> Ask Opra.

 MvdV>> Who's Opra?

 JS> A famus black woman in the US... makes Billions... is black and a
 JS> woman.

Oh, you mean Oprah.

 JS>   Looked past here challanges and when for gold. She started
 JS> with nothing and has everything she could ever want.

 JS> She shose to do it... her actions were consistant with her desire...
 JS> and she repeated that process until she was got her desired result.

So how come you are not as rich and famous as Oprah?

Sorry Joe, I don't buy that propaganda. There is only so much room at the top.
Only so many seats in the room of the rich and famous. No matter what system,
not everyone can be rich and famous. I do not buy this "success is a choice
mantra".



Cheers, Michiel

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