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Text 27011, 102 rader
Skriven 2009-01-30 14:25:51 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 26982 av Joe Delahaye (89720.fidonews)
Ärende: Health Care (was: The first of many to)
===============================================
29 Jan 09 16:17, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

 JD>   Re: Health Care (was: The first of many to)
 JD>   By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Thu Jan 29 2009 11:19:35

 >>  JD>   Nothing really new there.  In your statement up above there is
 >> no
 >>  JD> reason given for the lack of reducing death.
 >>
 >> They did mention all of Europe, so I would assume they meant the rest
 >> of the EU as well as those former satellites.

 JD> Sometimes assumptions can be wrong.

I don't think so in this case. 'All' is all inclusive.

 >>  JD>   I still attribute it to the influence of the American life
 >> style
 >>  JD> and foods.
 >>
 >> Fast foods? McDs, etc.?
 >>

 JD> That is part of it.  Also in the way that food is prepared these
 JD> days. Convenience cooking at home is also part of the problem

If you take a look at the sodium content, that's enough to make you put
the box back on the shelf. You can do better from scratch.

 >>  JD>   American style foods run rampant in Europe now.
 >>
 >> American style foods are the same as the old European foods, brought
 >> here by ancestors. Germans were famous for meat and potatoes, Italians
 >> for pasta and spices, etc.. Fast food stores aren't what I would call
 >> health foods. Too many of them supplement their 'burger' with fillers
 >> such as soy to reduce the fat content.
 >>

 JD> Actually, they are not the same.

I wouldn't say that to my Great-Grandmother. She may be Polish, but she
knows better.

 JD> Prepackaged foods were mostly unheard of in Europe, even in the 60's.

Hard to believe.

 JD>  The American influence,
 JD> (make that the US military bases all over, had a lot to do with that
 JD> too. They introduced that type of food to the locals.  The
 JD> convenience was appealing

Unfortunately, the military has had boxed or salted food for two
centuries. Not that it was good stuff to eat, but because it was
convenient. Eat at the mess hall, and you won't get boxed food.

 >> I went to Jack-in-the-Box and ate a hamburger around the first of the
 >> year. My first in over a year and a half. I may do that again someday,
 >> but I don't expect to  make a habit of it.

 JD> I dont eat at McDonalds except to get a order of fries when I am on
 JD> the road to my home town.  Only reason I do that is because it is
 JD> handy and halfway point.

I was in a McD's about a year ago, for coffee. That wasn't my choice
though.

 >>
 >>
 >> PS - this community is as old German as you can find in the US...it
 >> has more German restaurants than anyplace I've ever been before.
 >> They're very expensive though. A couple of weeks ago, Nancy and I went
 >> to the 'Friesonhaus' and had Snitzel at $18 a plate. The next time we
 >> go there, we'll go at lunch time, as the menu prices are 1/2 during
 >> that time.

 JD> I wonder though, if the food is really authentic German.

The back of the menu claims that they use recipes they brought from
Germany when they came to this area. I can't vouch for that, but I know
it's not fast food.

 JD> I have eaten in an establishment that had been a restaurant for over
 JD> 500 years, and the food was ablsolutely delicious.  Not prepackaged,
 JD> but everything made by the chef inhouse.

Been there as well. Because Nancy is Italian/Spanish and because I'd
rather eat Italian than German, she knew all of the people who ran the
establishments we ate in, in San Diego. Her father claimed that there's no
such thing as pizza in Italy (he was a 2nd gen from Italian immigrants), I
guessed that he should know or he was pulling her leg. I know that Ciro
and his wife were Sicilian immigrants and that he said his pizza was from
an authentic Sicilian recipe he brought with him from the old country. He
even made his own sausage in-house and sold it over the meat counter.
Eating from his table at his home was like eating and being in Italy.

                R\%/itt



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