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Skriven 2009-03-07 11:23:44 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: OK, Vlist claims that there is no God! LOL!
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Hello Roy,

On Friday March 06 2009 12:30, you wrote to me:

 RW>>> Why do Catholics think that the Pope represents God on Earth?

 MvdV>> Do they? I don't know, I am not a catholic, you have to ask
 MvdV>> them.

 RW> I don't need to ask them anything. If you want to know what they
 RW> think, you ask them.

It is not me who wants to know. You wre the one asking why catholics think the
Pope represents God on earth.

 RW>>> The Jews are smarter than the Catholics?

 MvdV>> The catholics seem to be getting along far better with the rest
 MvdV>> of the world than the Jews. So no, it does not look like the
 MvdV>> Jews are smarter.

 RW> Einstein was a Jew.

So? First, I think Einstein is overrated. His theory of relativity is a beauty,
but he was standing on the shoulders of giants. Maxwell and Lorentz were almost
there. Einstein just put the last piece of the puzzle in place and if he had
not done it, some else would have. He got nowhere with his Grand Unification
Theory and his views on quantum mechanics were way off. His social life was a
mess, he was very difficult person to live with.

 RW>>> According to Christian teachings, they're not supposed to eat
 RW>>> pork either.

 MvdV>> That is not what my Christian teacher told me.

 RW> I would be wary of people who don't know their bible and tell you such
 RW> things. I'd stay far away from that teacher.

I stay away from religion in general.

 RW> As a test of their knowledge, ask the teacher if pigs pass the cloven
 RW> hoof/chews a cud requirement as clean food, posed to Noah by the
 RW> Hebrew God in the old testament. If he/she tells you that law was done
 RW> away with by the sacrifice of Jesus, they don't know what they're
 RW> talking about.

As far as I am concerned none of them knows what they are talking about, they
are all talking nonsense.

 RW>>> According to the Pope, pork is now clean food and good for human
 RW>>> consumption. Many are led astray by the Pope.

 MvdV>> The Christian faith is more than just the catholics.

 RW> Yes, but the Catholic faith has set the precedent that the others have
 RW> followed.

And some rejected again.

 MvdV>> Non chatholic Christians do not believe the Pope is the ultimate
 MvdV>> authority,

 RW> Correct, yet they adhere to the teachings of the Catholic church.

Only some of them.

 MvdV>> but they believe pork is ok as well.

 RW> They also believe the Catholic Church had the authority to change the
 RW> Sabboth Day from the 7th day of the week to the first day of the week.

 RW> They are wrong in that belief.

No more than al the others who believe something else. It is all myth.

 RW> The last words in the Bible state something on the order of: if you
 RW> add anything to or change anything in this book, God will add onto
 RW> those who do, the plagues that are written in this book.

Yeah, one considers a book as authoritative, because the very same book book
says it is the word of God and Goid is the ultimate authority. Nice piece of
circular reasoning...

 RW> Didn't your mother ever tell you that: Just because Jahn can do it,
 RW> that doesn't mean that it's right or that you can do it. ?

No, she didn't.

 RW>>> OTH, a Muslim will only eat or touch food with his right hand,
 RW>>> because he believes the hand he wipes his ass with is tainted.

 MvdV>> Not ALL Muslims. There is diversity within the Muslim faith...

 RW> No doubt, but 'real' orthodox Muslims do adhere to that practice.

And who decides what are the "real" orthgodox Muslims? Smmes to me they have
the same problem as the myriad of Christinan branches that all claim the they
and only they are the true believers.

 MvdV>>>> Why can Muslims amd Jews have more than one wife and
 MvdV>>>> christians can not?

 RW>>> Muslims can, Jews don't.

 MvdV>> Abraham had more than one wife.

 RW> He wasn't a Christian or a Jew. He was a Hebrew.

Hebrew is not a religion, it is a country. (Or a language)

 RW>>>  Some Christians would, if it weren't outlawed by the state.

 MvdV>> The law has never stopped a man from having more than one wife.
 MvdV>> The law can easely be circumvented by calling the others
 MvdV>> "lover", "mistress" or "friend".

 RW> Are they bound together by marriage in the Church?  No, they are
 RW> living in sin, according to their religious faith/church.

The Christians that have more than one wife believe it has the fiat of their
God of course. So accrding to their own rules, they do not live in sin.

The sin is only in the eyes of the others who believe God will only sanction
mmonogameus mariages.

 MvdV>> Yes. And that same self proclaimed profet took a nine year old
 MvdV>> girl as one of his wives. Now how would that fit in with
 MvdV>> today's law and morals?

 RW> It probably would be seen in the Muslim world as being normal.

Only among some extremists.

 MvdV>> Someone not living too far from here lost his life because
 MvdV>> he expressed his views on that...

 RW> How so?

Theo van Gogh. he claimed the Muslim culture was a backward culture and thet
muslims were goat fuckers. he was killed by a muslim extermist. I think he was
wrong about the goat part...

 RW> I'm more of a Deist...I believe there's an omnipotent being that
 RW> created this universe, perhaps as an experiment. When you're dead,
 RW> you're dead.

 RW> However, if there's an afterlife, I'll be more than over-joyed if it's
 RW> anything like these religious zealots say it is.

Are you sure? I have a suspicion it will boring. Nothing much happening up
there.

Plus that I foresee some ... eh .. complications. Having to deal for 20+ cats
might be the least of them...


Cheers, Michiel

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