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Skriven 2007-11-10 02:01:03 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
   Kommentar till text 7495 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: Al Qaeda set fires
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Hello Roy.

08 Nov 07 13:22, you wrote to me:

 RW> 07 Nov 07 15:23, Stewart Arnett wrote to Roy Witt:

 SA>> Hello Roy.

 SA>> 05 Nov 07 16:02, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

 RW>>> 04 Nov 07 10:54, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Roy Witt:

 CS>>>>  -=> Quoting Roy Witt to David Drummond <=-

 DD>>>>> The bible actually has positive comments regarding the
 DD>>>>> consumption of alcohol...

 RW>>>>> Your source is?

 CS>>>> Probably the bible <g>.  I'm not recalling it being 'glorified'
 CS>>>> but accepted usage was fine and you see it all over.  Glass of
 CS>>>> wine. Holy grail, water into wine miracle for a wedding, etc.
 CS>>>> Also stories about it being bad to get blotto.

 RW>>> Hmmm, alcohol wasn't in the 'wine' spoken of in the bible. The
 RW>>> drink was stated as being un-fermented, which makes it grape
 RW>>> juice.

 SA>> Then how come Noah got so pissed he collapsed naked in his tent ?

 RW> Because he used wine in excess...the bible warns you of doing that
 RW> too.

(Hrrrrummmp, alcohol wasn't in the ' ...  blah blah ! )            ;-)

All things in moderation ... take a little wine for your stomach's sake ... ;-)
etc etc.

 SA>> Un-fermented grape juice turns sour very quickly, it was thus
 SA>> usually fermented lightly to preserve the juice as "wine",
 SA>> lightly being 5 to 7% by voluum.

 RW> Some claim the alcohol content of 'lightly' fermented wine is 12-14
 RW> percent.

Me thinks they's fibbing ;-)  I've got some well fermented wine here that just
reaches that level (Wynns Coonerwara Cabernet Sauvignon)  DD probably knows
where that is (let's see if he's watching) and some beer 12% Chimay from Ward's
land.

Wines of the Aramaic period are still made and several are made here, in New
Zealand, of about the mid decals  (5 ish percent) some are quite drinkable,
slightly cooled, instead of a beer after a hard day in the (what ever you do at
home) garden. Their ability at making you inebreated is the same as strong
beer. Noah, as the account says, was an expert at the "fruit of the vine" so I
recon' his stuff would have been of the higher value percentage, like the "good
stuff" Jesus produced in Cana during the party after the wedding.

For those who for "RELIGOUS REASONS" condemn alcohol, it is interesting to note
that our Lord's first work was to make "good stuff"! And one of his last as a
free man, was to drink it with his followers.

Yee Gads, I've just noticed the OS on the server here is named "MoonShine" !!!

(Fedora core seven)


 SA>> Probably Carol is mixing two places, Matthew 22:25 - 22:28 and
 SA>> Lot's seduction by his daughters with lots of wine over a couple
 SA>> of days. Genesis 19:32 - 19:35.

 RW> Lucky bastard.

What !!! oh yes ... of course he was out of it. ;-) ... Hmmm er yeah ... of
course   ,,, out of it,,, .

Stewart,

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