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Skriven 2007-11-09 10:57:17 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
   Kommentar till text 7502 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
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10 Nov 07 02:01, Stewart Arnett wrote to Roy Witt:

 SA> Hello Roy.

 SA> 08 Nov 07 13:22, you wrote to me:

 RW>> 07 Nov 07 15:23, Stewart Arnett wrote to Roy Witt:

 SA>>> Hello Roy.

 SA>>> 05 Nov 07 16:02, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

 RW>>>> 04 Nov 07 10:54, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Roy Witt:

 CS>>>>>  -=> Quoting Roy Witt to David Drummond <=-

 DD>>>>>> The bible actually has positive comments regarding the
 DD>>>>>> consumption of alcohol...

 RW>>>>>> Your source is?

 CS>>>>> Probably the bible <g>.  I'm not recalling it being 'glorified'
 CS>>>>> but accepted usage was fine and you see it all over.  Glass of
 CS>>>>> wine. Holy grail, water into wine miracle for a wedding, etc.
 CS>>>>> Also stories about it being bad to get blotto.

 RW>>>> Hmmm, alcohol wasn't in the 'wine' spoken of in the bible. The
 RW>>>> drink was stated as being un-fermented, which makes it grape
 RW>>>> juice.

 SA>>> Then how come Noah got so pissed he collapsed naked in his tent ?

 RW>> Because he used wine in excess...the bible warns you of doing that
 RW>> too.

 SA> (Hrrrrummmp, alcohol wasn't in the ' ...  blah blah ! )
 SA> ;-)

Tell me where you can find mention of 'alcohol' in the Bible, Mr
Hrrrrrummmp...

 SA> All things in moderation ... take a little wine for your stomach's
 SA> sake ... ;-) etc etc.

Many people believe there was no alcohol in that wine. This isn't the
first time there's been a controversy over wine v grape juice.

 SA>>> Un-fermented grape juice turns sour very quickly, it was thus
 SA>>> usually fermented lightly to preserve the juice as "wine",
 SA>>> lightly being 5 to 7% by voluum.

 RW>> Some claim the alcohol content of 'lightly' fermented wine is 12-14
 RW>> percent.

 SA> Me thinks they's fibbing ;-)  I've got some well fermented wine here
 SA> that just reaches that level (Wynns Coonerwara Cabernet Sauvignon)
 SA> DD probably knows where that is (let's see if he's watching) and some
 SA> beer 12% Chimay from Ward's land.

I did say, some people. I've tasted some fermented grape juice and it's
pretty strong.

 SA> Wines of the Aramaic period are still made and several are made here,
 SA> in New Zealand, of about the mid decals  (5 ish percent) some are
 SA> quite drinkable, slightly cooled, instead of a beer after a hard day
 SA> in the (what ever you do at home) garden. Their ability at making you
 SA> inebreated is the same as strong beer. Noah, as the account says, was
 SA> an expert at the "fruit of the vine" so I recon' his stuff would have
 SA> been of the higher value percentage, like the "good stuff" Jesus
 SA> produced in Cana during the party after the wedding.

Depends(tm) on whether you believe so.

 SA> For those who for "RELIGOUS REASONS" condemn alcohol, it is
 SA> interesting to note that our Lord's first work was to make "good
 SA> stuff"! And one of his last as a free man, was to drink it with his
 SA> followers.

 SA> Yee Gads, I've just noticed the OS on the server here is named
 SA> "MoonShine"
 SA> !!!

 SA> (Fedora core seven)


 SA>>> Probably Carol is mixing two places, Matthew 22:25 - 22:28 and
 SA>>> Lot's seduction by his daughters with lots of wine over a couple
 SA>>> of days. Genesis 19:32 - 19:35.

 RW>> Lucky bastard.

 SA> What !!! oh yes ... of course he was out of it. ;-) ... Hmmm er yeah
 SA> ... of course   ,,, out of it,,, .

 SA> Stewart,

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 SA>  * Origin: The RockBBS Auckland NZ 64-9-5799604 (3:772/100)

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