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Skriven 2005-01-15 20:14:28 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1870 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Usage history
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From: Ellen K. <72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com>

Well, if you only use Passport as a signin, yes.  But there was a piece to it
where it would know your credit card information so when you used it to log on
to a site where you wanted to buy stuff you wouldn't have to enter the credit
card information.   It would be impossible to use
that part and be anonymous.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:09:44 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
<41e30b2c@w3.nls.net>:

>   I disagree.  Passport is no less anonymous than other signin mechanisms.
You are in control of the information you provide to create your signin.  If
you want to lie then lie.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:c5h4u0p76hl80msc3pis0v1puf9k7erkpn@4ax.com...
>  I think he wasn't addressing services claiming they don't disclose...
>  his message gave examples of people trying to be anonymous... but
>  someone trying to be anonymous wouldn't use Passport (unless they were
>  REALLY stupid) so I'm not quite following the logic either.
>
>  On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:04:25 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
>  <41e1720a@w3.nls.net>:
>
>  >   The fragment you chose to quote is interesting.  How many services claim
that they do not disclose info as required by law?
>  >
>  >   The rest is garbage.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message
news:e8b2u0hias1bdkdgbe34mf26snbcna0ov4@4ax.com...
>  >  On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:48:12 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > If you mean to question what Passport is to Microsoft you should use
Microsoft's claims about the service
>  >
>  >  http://www.passport.net/Consumer/PrivacyPolicy.asp?lc=1033
>  >
>  >  "NET Passport may disclose personal information if required to do so by
law
>  >  or in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform
>  >  to legal requirements or comply with legal process served on Microsoft;"
>  >
>  >     This confirms the information I already had.  A single signon is for
>  >  convenience, not security.  Sure your ISP can see what you're doing.
They
>  >  can initiate a wiretap when served by a subpoena.  However there are many
>  >  people for which this won't suffice -
>  >     o terrorists who jump from Cafe to Cafe.
>  >    o  commuters who use wireless internet services from Starbucks, at
work,
>  >  airports, etc.
>  >    o Those who attempt to escape identity by wardriving from open wireless
>  >  to open wireless LAN.
>  >      Investigators would need to obtain subpoenas from thousands of ISPs
to
>  >  cover all activities of a person.   Alternatively, assuming that .NET is
in
>  >  widespread use, they would just need to subpoena Microsoft to get a
>  >  complete profile of sites where a signon was used, and the IP
>  >  address/date/time they were accessed from.
>  >
>  >     It still appears that if anyone gets your passport  login, they can
>  >  assume your signon, just as if they are you.

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