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Skriven 2005-03-18 22:24:16 av John Oellrich (1:379/45)
     Kommentar till en text av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: my electricity adventures, cont.
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From: "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us>

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Power Take Off. A way to couple the engine of the vehicle to an external =
device. Sometimes by direct drive (essentially an extension of the =
driveshaft) or by hydraulics (driven by a pump running of the engine). = I'm
just not sure what about our conversation caused Adam to barf this = one up ;->

--=20
john

john@oellrich.us
  "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message =
news:utk3319tspff63c17o1goala2o4gcunh9u@4ax.com...
  pto?

  On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:20:05 +0000, Adam Flinton
  <adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com> wrote in message <4230e3c3$1@w3.nls.net>:

  >& then by the sound of it, get a car with a pto (e.g. a landrover) & =
a=20
  >dynamo...
  >
  >Possibly an old diesel & a dynamo...
  >
  >Ah the chug of a diesel and the comforting lights of home.....<G>
  >
  >Adam
  >
  >
  >John Oellrich wrote:
  >> Ellen,
  >> =20
  >> A surge protector is untestable. Once it's suspect, toss it. And =
setting=20
  >> up a separate circuit for your computer equipment is a good idea. =
The=20
  >> main reason is to avoid power sags that are caused for example when =

  >> starting up a vacuum cleaner on the same circuit. With a UPS,=20
  >> though, that issue goes away. But I would still do it.
  >>=20
  >> --=20
  >> john
  >> =20
  >> john@oellrich.us <mailto:john@oellrich.us>
  >>=20
  >>     "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com
  >>     <mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com>> wrote in message
  >>     news:aib031tk33k1dj5rok3n6gr8dm8965nmq4@4ax.com...
  >>     Well, the printer was plugged into the wall and it's now =
deceased.   :(
  >>=20
  >>     So you think it's the surge protector?   I asked my handyman if =
he can
  >>     test it and he says he would only see something if one of these =
events
  >>     happened while he was testing it.
  >>=20
  >>     Also, apparently the ceiling light in my bedroom is on the same =
circuit
  >>     with the computer stuff, because when I had a slightly longer =
outage I
  >>     tried turning it on and nothing happened.  The ceiling lights =
in the
  >>     office and the adjacent hallway are NOT on the same circuit.
  >>=20
  >>     Handyman wants to put all the computer stuff on its own =
circuit.   Your
  >>     opinion?
  >>=20
  >>     On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:03:42 -0500, "John Oellrich" =
<john@oellrich.us
  >>     <mailto:john@oellrich.us>>
  >>     wrote in message <422f720f$1@w3.nls.net =
<mailto:422f720f$1@w3.nls.net>>:
  >>=20
  >>      >Ellen,
  >>      >
  >>      >Yes! STOP USING THE THING! Until you get your UPS run your =
systems
  >>     unprotected if you have to. You are literally playing with =
fire! The
  >>     unit has developed a defect and an electrical device with a =
defect
  >>     belongs in only one place, the trash.

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<DIV>Power Take Off. A way to couple the engine of the vehicle to an =
external=20
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driveshaft)=20
or by hydraulics (driven by a pump running of the engine). I'm just not =
sure=20
what about our conversation caused Adam to barf this one up ;-&gt;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
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<DIV><A href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Ellen K." &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">72322.1016@compuserve.com</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:utk3319tspff63c17o1goala2o4gcunh9u@4ax.com">news:utk3319tspf=
f63c17o1goala2o4gcunh9u@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>pto?<BR><BR>On=20
  Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:20:05 +0000, Adam Flinton<BR>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com">adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com</A>&gt; = wrote
in=20
  message &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:4230e3c3$1@w3.nls.net">4230e3c3$1@w3.nls.net</A>&gt;:<BR><=
BR>&gt;&amp;=20
  then by the sound of it, get a car with a pto (e.g. a landrover) &amp; =
a=20
  <BR>&gt;dynamo...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Possibly an old diesel &amp; a=20
  dynamo...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Ah the chug of a diesel and the comforting =
lights of=20
  home.....&lt;G&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Adam<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;John =
Oellrich=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; Ellen,<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&gt; A surge =
protector is=20
  untestable. Once it's suspect, toss it. And setting <BR>&gt;&gt; up a =
separate=20
  circuit for your computer equipment is a good idea. The <BR>&gt;&gt; =
main=20
  reason is to avoid power sags that are caused for example when =
<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  starting up a vacuum cleaner on the same circuit. With a UPS, =
<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  though, that issue goes away. But I would still do it.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; -- <BR>&gt;&gt; john<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&gt; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A> &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">mailto:john@oellrich.us</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&=
gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Ellen K." &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">72322.1016@compuserve.com</A><B=
R>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.co=
m</A>&gt;&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:aib031tk33k1dj5rok3n6gr8dm8965nmq4@4ax.com">news:aib031tk33k=
1dj5rok3n6gr8dm8965nmq4@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
  Well, the printer was plugged into the wall and it's now =
deceased.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  :(<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So you think it's =
the=20
  surge protector?&nbsp;&nbsp; I asked my handyman if he=20
  can<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; test it and he says he would =
only see=20
  something if one of these events<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
happened=20
  while he was testing it.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Also, apparently the ceiling light in my bedroom is on the same=20
  circuit<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; with the computer stuff, =
because=20
  when I had a slightly longer outage =
I<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  tried turning it on and nothing happened.&nbsp; The ceiling lights in=20
  the<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; office and the adjacent =
hallway are=20
  NOT on the same circuit.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Handyman wants to put all the computer stuff on its own =
circuit.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Your<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; opinion?<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:03:42 =
-0500, "John=20
  Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A><BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">mailto:john@oellrich.us</A>&gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  wrote in message &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:422f720f$1@w3.nls.net">422f720f$1@w3.nls.net</A> &lt;<A =

  =
href=3D"mailto:422f720f$1@w3.nls.net">mailto:422f720f$1@w3.nls.net</A>&gt=
;&gt;:<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;Ellen,<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Yes! STOP USING THE =
THING!=20
  Until you get your UPS run your =
systems<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  unprotected if you have to. You are literally playing with fire!=20
  The<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; unit has developed a defect =
and an=20
  electrical device with a defect<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
belongs in=20
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