Text 4839, 66 rader
Skriven 2005-06-11 18:16:52 av Randy (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4814 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Speaking of entitlement  :-)
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From: "Randy" <@>

That could be one of many reasons--why do people leave any work environment?

While money may be a big part of it, there are other reasons, too-they don't
feel their skills are being utilized to their fullest, they aren't being
challenged, they feel they are not being listened to, they don't like the
direction the company is being taken, they don't want to play the corporate
political game, they may have problems with their immediate manager; they may
have issues totally unrelated to the work....

What I think you are seeing is the fact that now software engineering is not
the glamour job it used to be, thanks in no small part to the perceived -or
real- threat of offshoring.

All other things being equal (both tangible and intangible), if I have a SE
making $120K here in the US, and I get the same performance and result out of
an Indian SE for $45K, what do you do?

There are now reports coming out of India where call-center personnel are
leaving in high numbers, due to abuse of US and UK customers transacting
business with companies that have outsourced to India.

There are a lot of dynamics at play here.



"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
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> Soounds more like rationalization than explanation.
>
> I agree though that they were looking for change.  The Microsoft people
> who went to Google were looking for a change, from a stagnant company
> whose best years have passed by; to a vibrant, growing company that's
> just beginning.
>
>  /m
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:18:21 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
>
>>   Interest in google is easy to explain.  For people looking for a change
>> but do not want to uproot themselves and move there are few high tech
>> businesses in the area particularly those that treat there employees as
>> well as Microsoft does.  In the past people have might have gone to
>> amazon or real or other local outfits.  During the boom many went to
>> startups but you see less of that now that the idea of startups isn't as
>> popular.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>  Probably due to the stress caued by Microsoft's problems hiring of late,
>>  and Google becoming the destination for Microsoft talent.  Well I guess
>>  that happens when you've trained your workforce to expect to be paid by
>>  the stock market.
>>
>>    /m
>

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