Text 5622, 69 rader
Skriven 2005-07-02 22:40:04 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5547 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com>

For a shape to convey meaning, it should be something the person seeing it
INSTANTLY associates with a meaning -- a stop sign is a good example (as long
as it's also red).  It can't be something the person has to think about to
figure out.  I don't think the average person would associate that shape with
protection, I guess because shields of that type are not used in real life
today.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:57:25 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
<42c4b004$1@w3.nls.net>:

>   The shield shape is used for safety issues where a shield is a symbol of
protection.  The use of the term sheild or the symbol in this context was not
introduced by Microsoft.  I've seen used for firewalls and antivirus.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:dg39c1di1nakjcs258ctlb2sk36kiji1cs@4ax.com...
>  Well, if you had a traffic light icon, and the red light would be on for
>  something bad, the yellow for caution, and the green for OK, that would
>  be a good use of the red/yellow/green idea.
>
>  But honestly I feel the shield shape detracts from the message, it looks
>  like some kind of jewelry or something.
>
>  On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:21 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
>  <42c017b8@w3.nls.net>:
>
>  >   You really have no clue what red and yellow icons mean?  Windows has
used these colors with different shapes from the begining.  You may be more
like the users that ignore warnings than you have admitted.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42bfd2f0@w3.nls.net...
>  >  And these icons mean what exactly? I mean I've been running window since
version 1 and I've got no idea what these mean. The first one looks like a
close the program icon sort of and the second is totally foreign to me.
>  >
>  >  OTOH a skull and crossbones would be pretty clear to me, it would mean
poison.
>  >
>  >  Geo.
>  >
>  >
>  >    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42bf42be@w3.nls.net...
>  >       I agree they don't see (perceive) many things we view as obvious.
It's not the same as the calendar example since it was, or sounds likes it is,
modeless.  In this case users can not continue without making a choice.  I
believe the issue here is what sometimes gets called click fatigue.  Still, I
don't believe there is an easy solution.  One may be to stop prompting users in
other cases but honestly, I don't see many of these.  Another may be to
surprise the user with buttons with shocking labels like "Run at my own risk"
and "The safe choice".  I think this last option would scare some users enough
to offend them and ultimately is vulnerable to click fatigue.
>  >
>  >       BTW, I realized after my earlier message that the icon I included
was from the previous version of the dialog.  The current warning dialog
contains one of the following two icons.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >    Rich

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