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Text 1193, 99 rader
Skriven 2006-06-18 12:50:51 av John Massey (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 1192 av Tim Richardson (1:123/500.10)
Ärende: Huh?
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 TR> Listen.......the "counter examples go back thirty years or more. When
 TR> are you and others finally going to get the idea? Do they have to set of
 TR> a `nuke' somewhere in our country before you finally see  the light!



 TR> These people want to kill us. They want to destroy our way of
 TR> life...take away all our freedoms and rights.




 TR> They have already forced us to have many of our rights scaled back
 TR> greatly, and seriously hurt our economy.




 TR>>> We aren't *torturing* these people (and `you' know that very
 well>>>> , but the criminal acts of a very few have been taken by you
 TR>>> (and your ilk) as a clarion call to arms!



 DC>> Of a very few???  There should be none.



 TR> We don't live in that utopian world that Pelosi and Murtha and others in
 TR> the democrat party would `like' us to live in.....we have to deal with
 TR> the world the way it *is*.....not the way we'd *like it* to be.



 TR> Some pretty nasty people get into the military sometimes. Dispite all
 TR> the psychological screening....and `sensitivity' testing......and all
 TR> that other liberal crapola.....sometimes..some pretty nasty people get
 TR> into the military.


 TR> Wow! what a surprise! And cops are sometimes crooked! And in
 TR> America...we have a *crime rate*!    No........really! We do.
 TR> Honest.......look it up.


 TR> And burglars steal!


 TR> And there are people who also cheat on their taxes! Really!



 DC>> But, the conditions were ripe for such abuses.  Undertrained
 DC>> troops were thrown into unfamiliar situations.  US troops
 DC>> are fighting a guerilla war in a country where they are
 DC>> unwanted interlopers.


 TR> You're talkin' through yer hat, here! You take a person who's a
 TR> civilian, put them through Boot Camp.....teach them all manner of ways
 TR> to kill people, hurt people, fight against people who are trying to kill
 TR> them...put them in a war, and suddenly.......you're absolutely surprised
 TR> that they kill people! Hurt people! And even more surprised when
 TR> sometimes.....they abuse people in their custody!




 DC>> The tragedies of the Viet Nam era are being repeated.


 TR> Oh get real! Probably one of the stupidest things about this entire
 TR> discussion, over all echoes it takes place, is that stupid-assed *just
 TR> like Vietnam* macro.


 TR> If you people want to `surrender'.....you'll find yourselves in the
minority.

The debate  in the House last week was to draw out the Democrats...to get
them on record saying that they don't support the war in Iraq and that they
want to cut and run. Because ultimately...if you don't support the current
mission, that's really the only position you can take. And with things going
pretty well these days...cutting and running isn't something the American
people would support.

Nancy Pelosi  said, "This is a war that is a grotesque mistake." I'm sure
all of the troops serving in Iraq from Pelosi's district are pleased to know
she thinks they're there fighting for a "grotesque mistake." So what's her
answer? She doesn't have one; all she says is that it's time for a new
strategy, according to her "one that will make us safer, strengthen our
military, and restore our reputation in the world." In other words, like
most Democrats, she has no plan.

Last weeks debate served its purpose. It showed that Democrats have no real
ideas of their own ... except to run and hide.

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